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> (Hello Red Hat lol) I think you underestimate the revenue OpenShift is generating... If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could

> (Hello Red Hat lol) I think you underestimate the revenue OpenShift is generating... If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP for that.

znpy 6y ago
If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP for that. yeah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on a more serious note: in order to compare apples to apples you should compare red hat support bills with GCP support bills (i think they call that "professional services"). I guess they aren't cheap either.
- koffiezet 6y ago
  > eah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sadly, also my experience. Response SLA of 2 hours? Please attach sosreport is ALWAYS the first reply. Even if you attached it in the original ticket (which we always do). The technical quality of the support is sub-par, most of the time when we include technical information, they don't seem to understand it at all...
freedomben 6y ago
Disclaimer: I'm a Red Hat consultant but this is entirely my own opinion Comparing consulting bills to IaaS bills is apples/oranges. Consultants are really just Humans as a Service (HaaS). A lot of the work we do is to bring in expertise in something that would otherwise be difficult and expensive to hire for and augment a team for a short period. We actually help customers with cloud-stuff (like AWS and Azure) all the time. A lot of the work I've been doing lately is stuff that would have to be done if you were using K8s on cloud instead of OpenShift. I'm currently helping to migrate services from older platforms (like BlueMix) to OpenShift. You can look for that "feature" all day long in the cloud console, but you won't find it :-)
- koffiezet 6y ago
  I'm not talking about consultancy fees. I'm only talking about Redhat licenses for OpenShift and its support contracts. I'm also a freelance consultant mainly focused on OpenShift and k8s, my bill is separate.
  - freedomben 6y ago
    Ah ok, I gotcha. No disagreement here. Apologies for misconstruing your comment.

> (Hello Red Hat lol) I think you underestimate the revenue OpenShift is generating... If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP for that.

znpy 6y ago

If I see the support contract bills of my clients, holy crap, you could host a ton of stuff on GCP for that. yeah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on a more serious note: in order to compare apples to apples you should compare red hat support bills with GCP support bills (i think they call that "professional services"). I guess they aren't cheap either.

koffiezet 6y ago
> eah with no support lol, and when something goes wrong... oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sadly, also my experience. Response SLA of 2 hours? Please attach sosreport is ALWAYS the first reply. Even if you attached it in the original ticket (which we always do). The technical quality of the support is sub-par, most of the time when we include technical information, they don't seem to understand it at all...

freedomben 6y ago

Disclaimer: I'm a Red Hat consultant but this is entirely my own opinion Comparing consulting bills to IaaS bills is apples/oranges. Consultants are really just Humans as a Service (HaaS). A lot of the work we do is to bring in expertise in something that would otherwise be difficult and expensive to hire for and augment a team for a short period. We actually help customers with cloud-stuff (like AWS and Azure) all the time. A lot of the work I've been doing lately is stuff that would have to be done if you were using K8s on cloud instead of OpenShift. I'm currently helping to migrate services from older platforms (like BlueMix) to OpenShift. You can look for that "feature" all day long in the cloud console, but you won't find it :-)

koffiezet 6y ago
I'm not talking about consultancy fees. I'm only talking about Redhat licenses for OpenShift and its support contracts. I'm also a freelance consultant mainly focused on OpenShift and k8s, my bill is separate.
- freedomben 6y ago
  Ah ok, I gotcha. No disagreement here. Apologies for misconstruing your comment.