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I haven't demanded anything of anyone, but for some reason you're telling me what I cannot do. Are you a moderator? Where people have made scientific claims I
by s4n1ty 6y ago
I haven't demanded anything of anyone, but for some reason you're telling me what I cannot do. Are you a moderator?
Where people have made scientific claims I've asked them for the source of their information. This is a reasonable question - not a "demand".
When someone replies to you citing another argument, it's reasonable to read that argument and to point out any flaws in it if you see them. That's what I did here. Was I not supposed to read it?
My argument doesn't rely on any citation other than Damore's memo itself, since it is the topic of discussion. I've already provided a link to that but here it is again for convenience: [1]
I followed the witch hunt against Damore very closely both at the time and since.
Without exception, every single critique I've read of Damore's memo is either a straw man, ad hominem, or a combination of both.
If you know of any counterexamples I'm happy to review them, but please pick the strongest argument rather than a long list[2]
[1] https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-I...
[2] https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
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- light_cone 6y agoThere is no use arguing in this woke universe. I am fed up with it. Gosh I am so fed up. If you still want to try, sincere good luck. As soon as you try to actually be given precise examples to back the myriad of baseless assertions, because you actually want to learn something as long as it's proven (ie scientific), then you are given the runaround, the goalposts are shifted, you are gaslighted and told to be supportive instead of asking questions, or simply ignored. This whole dogma is simply unfalsifiable. Plain and simple. And even if you get to the scientific arguments... how to explain (and be believed!) that a significant part of the scientific world has been hijacked, and there is now an entire part of science where rigorous scientific methodology does not apply. To the public eye it's still written science, therefore truthful. Disclaimer: Of course, I am not saying anything that I am not actually saying, despite the current tendency of some people to extrapolate to the moon the darkest opinions, thoughts, intentions and general respectability from someone speaking a narrow intervention on a specific topic. The issues evoked here are important, my rant has nothing to do with their gravity. I should not have to say it if people were reasonable in the first place. Thank you internet for reading my rant. I am not sure it has accomplished anything, but apparently the submit button has been clicked anyway :)
- s4n1ty 6y agoYeah, there is a real "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" vibe to the whole woke thing. Creeps me out. Hope I'm not speaking too soon, but it seems like actual liberals on the left are finally waking up to this Kafkaesque ideology they've been making excuses for [1] [1] https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/ https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/