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> Mirror sells you the equivalent of a beautiful, giant iPad that hangs on your wall for $1,495. Then, if you pay a $39 monthly subscription, you can use a mobi

by klipt 6y ago

> Mirror sells you the equivalent of a beautiful, giant iPad that hangs on your wall for $1,495. Then, if you pay a $39 monthly subscription, you can use a mobile app to turn the Mirror into a fitness class. Both on-demand and live classes are available for everything from yoga to boxing. Or you can just watch fitness classes on YouTube for free? Maybe I just don't have enough unwanted money to see the appeal of this.

jariel 6y ago
You could say the same for Peleton, but lo and behold, people truly love it. The totality of the experience matters, we know that by now. The sum of all the differences is a big thing. Maybe literally 'seeing yourself' is a big diffentiator. That said - my scepticism is over the price tag of something that has yet to be proven. CEO's get it in their heads all the time that they think they know what the market is doing, and they just snap something up for a lot of money without considering a lot of the details. I worked for 'Big Corp' that almost bought a Wifi music player - literally nobody on the team thought to actually try the music player. And why would they? Actually using the product isn't anyone's job! It looked good on paper but it was a terrible product.
- nordsieck 6y ago
  > You could say the same for Peleton, but lo and behold, people truly love it. I think there's real difference, though. Peleton is a true integrated solution, where the bike and screen are synchronized to the workout program. Most people already have a tv in their living room. I just don't see that there's much difference between Mirror and that. Sure - there's some opportunity for 2 way communication, but that's never going to be the way most interaction is going to happen. There's plenty of personal trainers all over the place for people who want that sort of thing, and most people find a true in-person experience much more fulfilling.
arduinomancer 6y ago
I can see a bike or a treadmill having a lot of value for a similar price but here you pay $1495 and you're still just doing everything yourself.
tqi 6y ago
Sure, and instead of Dropbox I could get an FTP account, mount it locally with curlftpfs, and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem [1]. :-D All kidding aside, I think there is value in convenience. Whether or not that value is >= $1500 + $40/mo is a personal question (not saying that such a person exists in any meaningful quantity). I'm not really interested in this product either, but I'm also sure there are a lot of things I spend money on that others would find incomprehensible. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863
- kortilla 6y ago
  Is that really an apt comparison? My elderly mother pulls up youtube videos on the smart tv every day.
tootie 6y ago
Is there any tech teardown of Mirror anywhere? Does it run Android? Has sensors or anything? Can I watch large-format Quibi on it?

by klipt 6y ago

jariel 6y ago

You could say the same for Peleton, but lo and behold, people truly love it. The totality of the experience matters, we know that by now. The sum of all the differences is a big thing. Maybe literally 'seeing yourself' is a big diffentiator. That said - my scepticism is over the price tag of something that has yet to be proven. CEO's get it in their heads all the time that they think they know what the market is doing, and they just snap something up for a lot of money without considering a lot of the details. I worked for 'Big Corp' that almost bought a Wifi music player - literally nobody on the team thought to actually try the music player. And why would they? Actually using the product isn't anyone's job! It looked good on paper but it was a terrible product.

nordsieck 6y ago
> You could say the same for Peleton, but lo and behold, people truly love it. I think there's real difference, though. Peleton is a true integrated solution, where the bike and screen are synchronized to the workout program. Most people already have a tv in their living room. I just don't see that there's much difference between Mirror and that. Sure - there's some opportunity for 2 way communication, but that's never going to be the way most interaction is going to happen. There's plenty of personal trainers all over the place for people who want that sort of thing, and most people find a true in-person experience much more fulfilling.

arduinomancer 6y ago

I can see a bike or a treadmill having a lot of value for a similar price but here you pay $1495 and you're still just doing everything yourself.

tqi 6y ago

Sure, and instead of Dropbox I could get an FTP account, mount it locally with curlftpfs, and then use SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem [1]. :-D All kidding aside, I think there is value in convenience. Whether or not that value is >= $1500 + $40/mo is a personal question (not saying that such a person exists in any meaningful quantity). I'm not really interested in this product either, but I'm also sure there are a lot of things I spend money on that others would find incomprehensible. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

kortilla 6y ago
Is that really an apt comparison? My elderly mother pulls up youtube videos on the smart tv every day.

tootie 6y ago

Is there any tech teardown of Mirror anywhere? Does it run Android? Has sensors or anything? Can I watch large-format Quibi on it?