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> it is to provide an upgrade path for users of Chromium in previous Ubuntu releases to the latest Ubuntu release without breaking Chromium. Are you seriously,

> it is to provide an upgrade path for users of Chromium in previous Ubuntu releases to the latest Ubuntu release without breaking Chromium. Are you seriously, unironically claiming this? You broke a massive amount of native plugins. The snap auto-update mechanism fucks up Chromium's data each time because Chromium gets no warning that it suddenly can't write to the disk. Its launch time is also way worse. On top of all that, Chromium just vomits all over syslog due to incomplete/bad confinement. You even made the damn switch when a massive CVE was found in Chromium, delaying a critical security update for a week due to the switch. What a massive load of bullshit.

rlpb 6y ago
> Are you seriously, unironically claiming this? Yes - because when I say "without breaking Chromium", I mean that Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade, as opposed to some things you don't like about how the Chromium snap works but don't apply to the majority of Chromium users. Edit: you seem to be conflating your disagreement on Ubuntu's choice to move to shipping Chromium as a snap with a technical detail on how the upgrade path for users was achieved. I understand you disagree with the former. The claim that this is about "make it some "universal installer"" is entirely false, and I'm simply pointing out why. Downmodding me for disagreeing with the former is doubly inappropriate here.
- Avamander 6y ago
  > I mean that Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade Because you don't ship it as a normal package any more, which is caused by you. Calling it something you did "for the users for the sake of not breaking it" is really rather nasty. > you seem to be conflating your disagreement on Ubuntu's choice to move to shipping Chromium as a snap with a technical detail on how the upgrade path for users was achieved. Oh I disagree with both, there's no conflation there.
- afiori 6y ago
  > Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade I am not an expert in apt/deb, could expand on this part? Is this a problem due to Canonical not offering a chromium deb or is it something that was already happening before? (like chromium requires many libraries to be of specific versions and if you pin them in apt then sometimes it is impossible to install any version)

rlpb 6y ago

> Are you seriously, unironically claiming this? Yes - because when I say "without breaking Chromium", I mean that Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade, as opposed to some things you don't like about how the Chromium snap works but don't apply to the majority of Chromium users. Edit: you seem to be conflating your disagreement on Ubuntu's choice to move to shipping Chromium as a snap with a technical detail on how the upgrade path for users was achieved. I understand you disagree with the former. The claim that this is about "make it some "universal installer"" is entirely false, and I'm simply pointing out why. Downmodding me for disagreeing with the former is doubly inappropriate here.

Avamander 6y ago
> I mean that Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade Because you don't ship it as a normal package any more, which is caused by you. Calling it something you did "for the users for the sake of not breaking it" is really rather nasty. > you seem to be conflating your disagreement on Ubuntu's choice to move to shipping Chromium as a snap with a technical detail on how the upgrade path for users was achieved. Oh I disagree with both, there's no conflation there.
afiori 6y ago
> Chromium wouldn't work at all because it wouldn't be installed following an upgrade I am not an expert in apt/deb, could expand on this part? Is this a problem due to Canonical not offering a chromium deb or is it something that was already happening before? (like chromium requires many libraries to be of specific versions and if you pin them in apt then sometimes it is impossible to install any version)