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> Black women are the most educated group when you look at the number of associate and bachelor’s degrees earned within each demographic. Can anyone confirm th

> Black women are the most educated group when you look at the number of associate and bachelor’s degrees earned within each demographic. Can anyone confirm this? When I follow the links, I get to this source: https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 That bar chart doesn't say anything to me about inter-demographic data. It looks confined to each demographic; i.e. women earn more degrees than men within each demographic, but that doesn't say anything about Black women vs. White men vs. Hispanic men vs. White women

thaumasiotes 6y ago
That bar chart does link to another report breaking down the share of degrees awarded by race. e.g. we see that for academic year 2015-2016, whites earned 65% of bachelor's degrees and blacks earned 11%. The estimate of the US population for 2019 [note, 2019 is not 2015] currently visible in Wikipedia says that whites are 60.4% of the population and blacks are 13.4%. Throwing in another assumption, we'll just say that of whites and blacks, each group is exactly half male and half female. Thus, in our population of 60400 whites and 13400 blacks, with 20,000 degrees earned between them: - The whites earned 17,105 degrees. - The blacks earned 2,895 degrees. - Of the black degrees, 1,853 went to black women, and 1,042 went to black men. - Of the white degrees, 9,579 went to white women, and 7,526 went to white men. - There are 30200 white men, 30200 white women, 6700 black men, and 6700 black women. - The rate of earning a bachelor's degree is 31.7% [note: we made this number up. It is useful only for comparing to the other three groups] for white women, 24.9% for white men, 27.7% for black women, and 15.6% for black men. White women are noticeably more educated than black women are. The original claim lumped in associate degrees along with bachelor's degrees. This might make that claim true. However, it would be hard to blame someone for viewing an associate degree as a negative rather than a positive signal. (Final note: population share of the United States is not the same thing as population share of those of college age in the United States.)
phonon 6y ago
https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/06/07/no-black-women-are-not-the-most-educated-group-in-the-us/ https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/06/07/no-black-w...
- bagacrap 6y ago
  this. tldr, undergrad degrees awarded to Blacks are highly skewed towards women. Somehow this has been misinterpreted across the web as Black women being the most educated group.

thaumasiotes 6y ago

That bar chart does link to another report breaking down the share of degrees awarded by race. e.g. we see that for academic year 2015-2016, whites earned 65% of bachelor's degrees and blacks earned 11%. The estimate of the US population for 2019 [note, 2019 is not 2015] currently visible in Wikipedia says that whites are 60.4% of the population and blacks are 13.4%. Throwing in another assumption, we'll just say that of whites and blacks, each group is exactly half male and half female. Thus, in our population of 60400 whites and 13400 blacks, with 20,000 degrees earned between them: - The whites earned 17,105 degrees. - The blacks earned 2,895 degrees. - Of the black degrees, 1,853 went to black women, and 1,042 went to black men. - Of the white degrees, 9,579 went to white women, and 7,526 went to white men. - There are 30200 white men, 30200 white women, 6700 black men, and 6700 black women. - The rate of earning a bachelor's degree is 31.7% [note: we made this number up. It is useful only for comparing to the other three groups] for white women, 24.9% for white men, 27.7% for black women, and 15.6% for black men. White women are noticeably more educated than black women are. The original claim lumped in associate degrees along with bachelor's degrees. This might make that claim true. However, it would be hard to blame someone for viewing an associate degree as a negative rather than a positive signal. (Final note: population share of the United States is not the same thing as population share of those of college age in the United States.)

phonon 6y ago

https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/06/07/no-black-women-are-not-the-most-educated-group-in-the-us/ https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2016/06/07/no-black-w...

bagacrap 6y ago
this. tldr, undergrad degrees awarded to Blacks are highly skewed towards women. Somehow this has been misinterpreted across the web as Black women being the most educated group.