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That'd be some interesting data to show backing up your claims this affects only the more left leaning campuses.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Look at any county by county map showing who voted for who in a presidential election in the last 20yr. The cities lean left. Where are the universities with graduate programs big enough to attract substantial foreign interest located? Mostly cities. So who gets hurt by this policy the most? Places (and people) who lean left.
- as300 6y ago
  This is ignoring the many state schools in those states which attract tens of thousands of international students each year
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    True, it's a messy policy (like any other broad brush federal policy) and he's throwing a lot of his own supporters under the bus.
  - mprovost 6y ago
    Looking at the map of results from the 2016 election in Indiana (where I went to college), the state was solidly pro-Trump but you can easily spot the blue counties where IU Bloomington (Monroe) and Notre Dame (St Joseph) are located. The only other counties where Hillary won are Marion (Indianapolis) and Lake (basically a suburb of Chicago). Tippecanoe county (Purdue Univ) is pink and went for Trump with 49%. This indicates that even in a "red state", the university towns with lots of international students are already voting left and hurting them with this policy probably wouldn't affect the outcome of the next election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...
dfxm12 6y ago
FWIW, Stephen Miller, an immigration advisor, has, in the past suggested limiting issuing student visas to "hurt universities whose faculty and students had been critical of Trump" [0]. With this in mind, this motivation becomes more clear and this wouldn't be the first policy from this administration that does collateral damage to their base. 0 - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409436-trump-considered-halting-student-visas-for-chinese-nationals-report https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409436-trump-con...
- pchristensen 6y ago
  It's like the tax policy change a few years ago to reduce the mortgage interest deduction. This had a much bigger effect on expensive cities and suburbs which are more in Democratic-voting states (CA, NY, CT, NJ, MA, WA, MD, etc). The Republican party lost a few Representatives in those states but it was worth it to them to get the tax bill passed and stick it to the libs.

Look at any county by county map showing who voted for who in a presidential election in the last 20yr. The cities lean left. Where are the universities with graduate programs big enough to attract substantial foreign interest located? Mostly cities. So who gets hurt by this policy the most? Places (and people) who lean left.

as300 6y ago
This is ignoring the many state schools in those states which attract tens of thousands of international students each year
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  True, it's a messy policy (like any other broad brush federal policy) and he's throwing a lot of his own supporters under the bus.
- mprovost 6y ago
  Looking at the map of results from the 2016 election in Indiana (where I went to college), the state was solidly pro-Trump but you can easily spot the blue counties where IU Bloomington (Monroe) and Notre Dame (St Joseph) are located. The only other counties where Hillary won are Marion (Indianapolis) and Lake (basically a suburb of Chicago). Tippecanoe county (Purdue Univ) is pink and went for Trump with 49%. This indicates that even in a "red state", the university towns with lots of international students are already voting left and hurting them with this policy probably wouldn't affect the outcome of the next election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...

dfxm12 6y ago

FWIW, Stephen Miller, an immigration advisor, has, in the past suggested limiting issuing student visas to "hurt universities whose faculty and students had been critical of Trump" [0]. With this in mind, this motivation becomes more clear and this wouldn't be the first policy from this administration that does collateral damage to their base. 0 - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409436-trump-considered-halting-student-visas-for-chinese-nationals-report https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/409436-trump-con...

pchristensen 6y ago
It's like the tax policy change a few years ago to reduce the mortgage interest deduction. This had a much bigger effect on expensive cities and suburbs which are more in Democratic-voting states (CA, NY, CT, NJ, MA, WA, MD, etc). The Republican party lost a few Representatives in those states but it was worth it to them to get the tax bill passed and stick it to the libs.