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By your logic, all apps that run on a computer are "native apps", because they are somehow using the native features of the computer to render the webview. Whe

By your logic, all apps that run on a computer are "native apps", because they are somehow using the native features of the computer to render the webview. When you say "native" apps in this context, it 100% refers to non-webview based apps.

c-smile 6y ago
Are Norton Antivirus, Avast, BitDefender and others are native applications in your classification? For the note they use HTML/CSS for defining/rendering their UI (Sciter). Are Windows 10 UWP applications native? They use XAML and JS... And so on.
- cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
  They are just "apps". I think you miss my point. My point is that when an app developer adds the "native" qualifier to describe their product, it means they are trying to emphasize that aspect. > Are Norton Antivirus, Avast, BitDefender and other are native applications in your classification? None of these companies call their apps "native apps". They are just apps, and they are not lying. But unnecessarily adding the "native" qualifier when it is not "native" is false advertising, and that's what i'm pointing out. Companies like Slack don't falsely advertise their apps as "Native apps". They instead own it 100%. If Slack called themselves "native app", a lot of people on HN will probably throw stones at them for lyiing.
  - c-smile 6y ago
    Is standard editor of Gnome desktops (gedit or xed) "native" one? And pretty much all Gnome apps for that matter? They use XML and CSS for UI definitions... I mean it is hard (if at all possible) to draw clear "native"/"non-native" divider these days. It seems that "non-native app" is just a synonym for "app that uses browser based UI" ...
    - cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
      You're still using analogies to make a point? You still don't get my point. Let me try one last time. When you call yourself a "toolchain for building native apps", what people are expecting is not another Electron like scheme. If electron called itself "a toolchain for building native apps", people will say it's false advertising.

c-smile 6y ago

Are Norton Antivirus, Avast, BitDefender and others are native applications in your classification? For the note they use HTML/CSS for defining/rendering their UI (Sciter). Are Windows 10 UWP applications native? They use XAML and JS... And so on.

cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
They are just "apps". I think you miss my point. My point is that when an app developer adds the "native" qualifier to describe their product, it means they are trying to emphasize that aspect. > Are Norton Antivirus, Avast, BitDefender and other are native applications in your classification? None of these companies call their apps "native apps". They are just apps, and they are not lying. But unnecessarily adding the "native" qualifier when it is not "native" is false advertising, and that's what i'm pointing out. Companies like Slack don't falsely advertise their apps as "Native apps". They instead own it 100%. If Slack called themselves "native app", a lot of people on HN will probably throw stones at them for lyiing.
- c-smile 6y ago
  Is standard editor of Gnome desktops (gedit or xed) "native" one? And pretty much all Gnome apps for that matter? They use XML and CSS for UI definitions... I mean it is hard (if at all possible) to draw clear "native"/"non-native" divider these days. It seems that "non-native app" is just a synonym for "app that uses browser based UI" ...
  - cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
    You're still using analogies to make a point? You still don't get my point. Let me try one last time. When you call yourself a "toolchain for building native apps", what people are expecting is not another Electron like scheme. If electron called itself "a toolchain for building native apps", people will say it's false advertising.