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I did check it out before using KeePassXC, thank you. I took a whole day to check out all available FOSS options. KeePassXC won based on my criteria by a long

by preek 6y ago

I did check it out before using KeePassXC, thank you. I took a whole day to check out all available FOSS options. KeePassXC won based on my criteria by a long shot. One deadly reason against BitWarden (for me): Having a FOSS server that's not officially supported and more or less reverse engineered, is even worse than a proprietary API. It can become defunct at any point in time - and it might even be hard to catch it. At least, with 1P, when they deprecated their old Apps, they announced it. Not saying that BitWarden is bad in any way. Just saying that the KeePassXC stack is FOSS all the way with no lock in and multiple implementations of the Keepass file format. As for the SNAP package: I'm not versed in that. I'm just using the regular Debian package. Works fine for me.

CDSlice 6y ago
I'm not sure when you looked at Bitwarden but the official server and clients are open source under the AGPL, including the API for other people to make their own servers and clients with. So I would say that Bitwarden fills the FOSS all the way requirement. https://github.com/bitwarden https://github.com/bitwarden
- LanternLight83 6y ago
  I've self hosted the rust server, and have attempted to host the official server but found that it was difficult to install and addly slow once configured. Running your own server also loses you many of the benefits of premium if you keep supporting the project. They changed their color scheme from my favorite blue to Facebook-blue, and after exploring it on tails, I think I'll be more than happy to transition to keepass in the future.
  - commoner 6y ago
    The bitwarden_rs server features TOTP entries and support for login with U2F (YubiKey) and Duo. It also handles Vault attachments and organizations. Which premium features are you missing?
    - cies 6y ago
      bitwarden_rs is really nice code.
  - hoistbypetard 6y ago
    What was hard about self-hosting the official server? I found it a little resource heavy but their docker images make it all very simple to set up and run. I lived with that for a while, and didn't like the size of the VPS I had to use to keep it stable, so I moved to bitwarden_rs, and I haven't noticed any missing premium features. I like keepasxc also, but the thing that moved me from that to bitwarden was my desire to use my password databases in multiple places at once without conflicts. I think the bitwarden browser integration and phone integration is nicer, also.
inetknght 6y ago
> As for the SNAP package: I'm not versed in that. I'm just using the regular Debian package. Works fine for me. `apt install package` could install a snap [0] [1]. I don't know if you're using the `.deb` installed via your package manager or downloaded directly from the KeePassXC distribution. In either way, you might want to look deeply into how it works. Consider previous discussions about Ubuntu and Snaps. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434067 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23435178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23435178
- preek 6y ago
  No, it can’t. I never said that I’m using Ubuntu. I’m using Debian and stock Debian packages as mentioned before (as mentioned in the original GP comment). It’s a proper native package: https://packages.debian.org/buster/keepassxc https://packages.debian.org/buster/keepassxc

by preek 6y ago

CDSlice 6y ago

I'm not sure when you looked at Bitwarden but the official server and clients are open source under the AGPL, including the API for other people to make their own servers and clients with. So I would say that Bitwarden fills the FOSS all the way requirement. https://github.com/bitwarden https://github.com/bitwarden

LanternLight83 6y ago
I've self hosted the rust server, and have attempted to host the official server but found that it was difficult to install and addly slow once configured. Running your own server also loses you many of the benefits of premium if you keep supporting the project. They changed their color scheme from my favorite blue to Facebook-blue, and after exploring it on tails, I think I'll be more than happy to transition to keepass in the future.
- commoner 6y ago
  The bitwarden_rs server features TOTP entries and support for login with U2F (YubiKey) and Duo. It also handles Vault attachments and organizations. Which premium features are you missing?
  - cies 6y ago
    bitwarden_rs is really nice code.
- hoistbypetard 6y ago
  What was hard about self-hosting the official server? I found it a little resource heavy but their docker images make it all very simple to set up and run. I lived with that for a while, and didn't like the size of the VPS I had to use to keep it stable, so I moved to bitwarden_rs, and I haven't noticed any missing premium features. I like keepasxc also, but the thing that moved me from that to bitwarden was my desire to use my password databases in multiple places at once without conflicts. I think the bitwarden browser integration and phone integration is nicer, also.

inetknght 6y ago

> As for the SNAP package: I'm not versed in that. I'm just using the regular Debian package. Works fine for me. `apt install package` could install a snap [0] [1]. I don't know if you're using the `.deb` installed via your package manager or downloaded directly from the KeePassXC distribution. In either way, you might want to look deeply into how it works. Consider previous discussions about Ubuntu and Snaps. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434067 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23435178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23435178

preek 6y ago
No, it can’t. I never said that I’m using Ubuntu. I’m using Debian and stock Debian packages as mentioned before (as mentioned in the original GP comment). It’s a proper native package: https://packages.debian.org/buster/keepassxc https://packages.debian.org/buster/keepassxc