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Regardless of the regulation. What is the difference of being in the US or anywhere else if you can't go on campus and only work /study from home. The quality o

Regardless of the regulation. What is the difference of being in the US or anywhere else if you can't go on campus and only work /study from home. The quality of learning is low in both cases.

3001 6y ago
Timezone, internships and cultural exchange.Also some international students are actually on merit based scholarship.Internet connectivity is also really bad in most third world countries. I can go on and on.
- WanderPanda 6y ago
  Can confirm, internet connectivity is really bad in many parts of Germany
letmeinhere 6y ago
For one, it's unreasonable to assume that all of these students have home environments conducive to do high-def teleconferencing on American time zones.
- syshum 6y ago
  Would that not also apply to domestic students, even the international students as America has very very spotty broadband access even in cities one section may have great service and go 2 streets over and you get crap... I know locally that has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks for the local schools, dealing with students that did not have good internet.
  - 3001 6y ago
    Very spotty is different from non-existent.
the_svd_doctor 6y ago
Timezones, connectivity, can’t come back (embassies are all closed) even if it reopens, still numerous travel bans, unsafe travel... Also many couldn’t get their funding (TA/RA) or scholarship without being in the US
dudul 6y ago
A few comments already pointed at Timezone differences (which, OK, maybe it doesn't matter if courses are recorded and can be taken asynchronously) and Internet access (it seems to make sense, but I don't know if it isn't a little cliche to assume these students automatically come from very poor countries without internet). Another I can think of is possibility of re-entry. Last time I heard the USCIS was virtually frozen for visas and all. If these students leave for this year we don't know if they'll be able to come back once the pandemic is over.
Raed667 6y ago
Internet connectivity, time zones, and costs of travel that can be thousands of dollars. For merit students with scholarships it is almost impossible to finance a both-way trip on such a short notice.
mxcrossr 6y ago
We really should just be making whatever accommodation is necessary to reduce travel. The last thing we need is tens of thousands of students flocking to the airport when their visas expire. If you went home, you stay home and continue from there. If you're in the USA, stay put.
lutorm 6y ago
The difference is that we can assume that this online-only move, unlike enrolling in an online-only university, is temporary. It does not seem reasonable to kick students out because one semester is online. It's extremely disruptive to be forced to get rid of your housing, figure out what to do about your belongings, and move across the world just to invert the move at the end of the year.

Regardless of the regulation. What is the difference of being in the US or anywhere else if you can't go on campus and only work /study from home. The quality of learning is low in both cases.

3001 6y ago

Timezone, internships and cultural exchange.Also some international students are actually on merit based scholarship.Internet connectivity is also really bad in most third world countries. I can go on and on.

WanderPanda 6y ago
Can confirm, internet connectivity is really bad in many parts of Germany

letmeinhere 6y ago

For one, it's unreasonable to assume that all of these students have home environments conducive to do high-def teleconferencing on American time zones.

syshum 6y ago
Would that not also apply to domestic students, even the international students as America has very very spotty broadband access even in cities one section may have great service and go 2 streets over and you get crap... I know locally that has been one of the biggest stumbling blocks for the local schools, dealing with students that did not have good internet.
- 3001 6y ago
  Very spotty is different from non-existent.

the_svd_doctor 6y ago

Timezones, connectivity, can’t come back (embassies are all closed) even if it reopens, still numerous travel bans, unsafe travel... Also many couldn’t get their funding (TA/RA) or scholarship without being in the US

dudul 6y ago

A few comments already pointed at Timezone differences (which, OK, maybe it doesn't matter if courses are recorded and can be taken asynchronously) and Internet access (it seems to make sense, but I don't know if it isn't a little cliche to assume these students automatically come from very poor countries without internet). Another I can think of is possibility of re-entry. Last time I heard the USCIS was virtually frozen for visas and all. If these students leave for this year we don't know if they'll be able to come back once the pandemic is over.

Raed667 6y ago

Internet connectivity, time zones, and costs of travel that can be thousands of dollars. For merit students with scholarships it is almost impossible to finance a both-way trip on such a short notice.

mxcrossr 6y ago

We really should just be making whatever accommodation is necessary to reduce travel. The last thing we need is tens of thousands of students flocking to the airport when their visas expire. If you went home, you stay home and continue from there. If you're in the USA, stay put.

lutorm 6y ago

The difference is that we can assume that this online-only move, unlike enrolling in an online-only university, is temporary. It does not seem reasonable to kick students out because one semester is online. It's extremely disruptive to be forced to get rid of your housing, figure out what to do about your belongings, and move across the world just to invert the move at the end of the year.