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While we're on the subject of password managers ... I'm still looking for one with decent multi-user & group support, with audit trails, which is self-hosted. B

by elric 6y ago

While we're on the subject of password managers ... I'm still looking for one with decent multi-user & group support, with audit trails, which is self-hosted. Bitwarden sounded promising, but I'm put off by their MS based stack and their pricing model. Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

eumenides1 6y ago
I'm been considering jumping to bitwarden
risyachka 6y ago
What don't you like about their pricing model?
woldemariam 6y ago
Can you please say more on what you mean by MS based stack? It runs on azure?
- tilolebo 6y ago
  Probably the underlying stack. From https://github.com/bitwarden/server#requirements https://github.com/bitwarden/server#requirements: Requirements .NET Core 3.1 SDK SQL Server 2017
  - rutthenut 6y ago
    Well you can run SQL Server on Linux if you wanted
berkes 6y ago
I'm not sure what you mean by "their MS based stack", but if it is not about the build tools (.net etc), but about them hosting on azure: Bitwarden can be selfhosted just fine on Linux. https://github.com/bitwarden/server#linux--macos https://github.com/bitwarden/server#linux--macos
- thayne 6y ago
  Unless it's changed since I looked at it, it requires MS SQL Server, which does run on linux, but isn't FOSS, and is very expensive to license if you aren't already using it.
  - greggyb 6y ago
    SQL Server has a no-cost edition, SQL Server Express. This addresses only the free as in beer side of your comment. Not suggesting this as an argument for you to adopt BW, but just as an FYI.
  - Semaphor 6y ago
    > and is very expensive to license if you aren't already using it. Not FOSS, but the express edition is free as in beer and the limits should not matter at all for bitwarden (I think the main one is max 10 GB). I prefer KeepassXC + Keepass2Android + Nextcloud though ;)
AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
The company I work for has used CorporateVault for years, but it is unfortunately a dead project and relied on Java and Flash to work properly. I've been looking for a replacement for some time but all the contenders seem to have cloud bullshit, are overengineered, and/or can't integrate with AD. Once Flash support is dropped for good I'm probably going to be stuck writing a replacement.
nicoburns 6y ago
Bitwarden-rs is an open source project that implements a bitwarden compatible backend as a self-contained binary (implemented in Rust)
- graton 6y ago
  I just set this up this weekend in a container at home, on my Synology box. Nice thing about Bitwarden-rs is you get a lot of the "premium" features for free with it. For example: Yubikey, U2F, and Duo support. https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs
with_a_herring 6y ago
It's not a recommendation because I haven't tried it but I recently learnt about TeamPass : https://teampass.net https://teampass.net
sdflhasjd 6y ago
There's an alternative implementation of the bitwarden server in Rust: https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs
jlgaddis 6y ago
That along with their CLI utility is what killed Bitwarden for me. It is absolutely horrendous, mostly due to being written in NodeJS, AFAICT ("when your only tool is a hammer..."?).

by elric 6y ago

eumenides1 6y ago

I'm been considering jumping to bitwarden

risyachka 6y ago

What don't you like about their pricing model?

woldemariam 6y ago

Can you please say more on what you mean by MS based stack? It runs on azure?

tilolebo 6y ago
Probably the underlying stack. From https://github.com/bitwarden/server#requirements https://github.com/bitwarden/server#requirements: Requirements .NET Core 3.1 SDK SQL Server 2017
- rutthenut 6y ago
  Well you can run SQL Server on Linux if you wanted

berkes 6y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by "their MS based stack", but if it is not about the build tools (.net etc), but about them hosting on azure: Bitwarden can be selfhosted just fine on Linux. https://github.com/bitwarden/server#linux--macos https://github.com/bitwarden/server#linux--macos

thayne 6y ago
Unless it's changed since I looked at it, it requires MS SQL Server, which does run on linux, but isn't FOSS, and is very expensive to license if you aren't already using it.
- greggyb 6y ago
  SQL Server has a no-cost edition, SQL Server Express. This addresses only the free as in beer side of your comment. Not suggesting this as an argument for you to adopt BW, but just as an FYI.
- Semaphor 6y ago
  > and is very expensive to license if you aren't already using it. Not FOSS, but the express edition is free as in beer and the limits should not matter at all for bitwarden (I think the main one is max 10 GB). I prefer KeepassXC + Keepass2Android + Nextcloud though ;)

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

The company I work for has used CorporateVault for years, but it is unfortunately a dead project and relied on Java and Flash to work properly. I've been looking for a replacement for some time but all the contenders seem to have cloud bullshit, are overengineered, and/or can't integrate with AD. Once Flash support is dropped for good I'm probably going to be stuck writing a replacement.

nicoburns 6y ago

Bitwarden-rs is an open source project that implements a bitwarden compatible backend as a self-contained binary (implemented in Rust)

graton 6y ago
I just set this up this weekend in a container at home, on my Synology box. Nice thing about Bitwarden-rs is you get a lot of the "premium" features for free with it. For example: Yubikey, U2F, and Duo support. https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs

with_a_herring 6y ago

It's not a recommendation because I haven't tried it but I recently learnt about TeamPass : https://teampass.net https://teampass.net

sdflhasjd 6y ago

There's an alternative implementation of the bitwarden server in Rust: https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs https://github.com/dani-garcia/bitwarden_rs

jlgaddis 6y ago

That along with their CLI utility is what killed Bitwarden for me. It is absolutely horrendous, mostly due to being written in NodeJS, AFAICT ("when your only tool is a hammer..."?).