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> loss of taste and smell Not necessarily neurological and this is the first I heard that the loss of smell is neurological as opposed to physical[1]. But I gu

> loss of taste and smell Not necessarily neurological and this is the first I heard that the loss of smell is neurological as opposed to physical[1]. But I guess everybody is a doctor now so go right ahead and say anything you like without any evidence. I mean what is the worse that could happen by spreading misinformation as long as it makes people more afraid? [1]: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-covid-19-makes-people-lose-their-sense-of-smell1/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-covid-19-make...

carlmr 6y ago
I'm not sure why you're attacking OP. They have been reporting neurological loss of smell since March in almost every news source. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-taste.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-sympto... https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lost-smell-and-taste-hint-covid-19-can-target-the-nervous-system-67312 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lost-smell-and-ta... https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/loss-of-smell-confusion-strokes-does-covid-19-target-the-nervous-system https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/loss-of-smell-confus... https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/not-just-loss-of-taste-dizziness-covid-19-may-pose-a-threat-to-entire-nervous-system-shows-study/articleshow/76340314.cms https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/not-just-loss-... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-ef...
- jaekash 6y ago
  Your first link, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-taste.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-sympto... - makes no indication that the loss of smell is neurological. Your second link is purely speculative and not a report of neurological loss of smell. Spare your gish gallop for someone else.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30287-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... > Concerns regarding potential neurological complications of COVID-19 are being increasingly reported, primarily in small series.
    - jaekash 6y ago
      Concerns regarding potential neurological complications != reports of neurological loss of smell. But you know that.
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  - carlmr 6y ago
    The article doesn't spell it out but it says "Several American patients who have had symptoms consistent with the coronavirus, but who have not been tested or are still awaiting test results, described losing their senses of smell and taste, even though their noses were clear and they were not congested." That means that there's some non-obstructive issue here going on. In any case, my point was that you were attacking OP while there were a lot of reports on non obstructive loss of smell. You said it's the first you heard of it, which made me assume you didn't follow any news. Since without any judgment of the validity of these reports, it's normal to assume this is what a normal person has heard in that time. Now after your second response I have to assume you're just arguing in bad faith. It's not gish gallop to post a time line of reports from March to June.
    - jaekash 6y ago
      > That means that there's some non-obstructive issue here going on. Maybe you are not clear on what neurological and obstructive means, but non-obstructive is not the same as neurological. > It's not gish gallop to post a time line of reports from March to June. It is gish gallop if you say "reporting neurological loss of smell" and the first two things you cite to support that does not make any mention of a single report of neurological loss of smell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop > During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate. > reports on non obstructive loss of smell. Gish gallop is not enough, have to move the goalposts also. > You said it's the first you heard of it, which made me assume you didn't follow any news. I never said this is the first I have heard of non-obstructive loss of smell. > I have to assume you're just arguing in bad faith. You gish-gallop and when I call you on it you lie and move the goal posts. Get a mirror.
Vrondi 6y ago
This is widely reported, and also a well known symptom of impending stroke. You need to read more.

carlmr 6y ago

I'm not sure why you're attacking OP. They have been reporting neurological loss of smell since March in almost every news source. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-taste.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-sympto... https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lost-smell-and-taste-hint-covid-19-can-target-the-nervous-system-67312 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/lost-smell-and-ta... https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/loss-of-smell-confusion-strokes-does-covid-19-target-the-nervous-system https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/loss-of-smell-confus... https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/not-just-loss-of-taste-dizziness-covid-19-may-pose-a-threat-to-entire-nervous-system-shows-study/articleshow/76340314.cms https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/not-just-loss-... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-ef...

jaekash 6y ago
Your first link, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-symptoms-smell-taste.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/health/coronavirus-sympto... - makes no indication that the loss of smell is neurological. Your second link is purely speculative and not a report of neurological loss of smell. Spare your gish gallop for someone else.
- DanBC 6y ago
  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30287-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... > Concerns regarding potential neurological complications of COVID-19 are being increasingly reported, primarily in small series.
  - jaekash 6y ago
    Concerns regarding potential neurological complications != reports of neurological loss of smell. But you know that.
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- carlmr 6y ago
  The article doesn't spell it out but it says "Several American patients who have had symptoms consistent with the coronavirus, but who have not been tested or are still awaiting test results, described losing their senses of smell and taste, even though their noses were clear and they were not congested." That means that there's some non-obstructive issue here going on. In any case, my point was that you were attacking OP while there were a lot of reports on non obstructive loss of smell. You said it's the first you heard of it, which made me assume you didn't follow any news. Since without any judgment of the validity of these reports, it's normal to assume this is what a normal person has heard in that time. Now after your second response I have to assume you're just arguing in bad faith. It's not gish gallop to post a time line of reports from March to June.
  - jaekash 6y ago
    > That means that there's some non-obstructive issue here going on. Maybe you are not clear on what neurological and obstructive means, but non-obstructive is not the same as neurological. > It's not gish gallop to post a time line of reports from March to June. It is gish gallop if you say "reporting neurological loss of smell" and the first two things you cite to support that does not make any mention of a single report of neurological loss of smell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop > During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate. > reports on non obstructive loss of smell. Gish gallop is not enough, have to move the goalposts also. > You said it's the first you heard of it, which made me assume you didn't follow any news. I never said this is the first I have heard of non-obstructive loss of smell. > I have to assume you're just arguing in bad faith. You gish-gallop and when I call you on it you lie and move the goal posts. Get a mirror.

Vrondi 6y ago

This is widely reported, and also a well known symptom of impending stroke. You need to read more.