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What if next year a more virulent strand of Covid comes along that kills almost everyone in the world who didn't get exposed to Covid-19. Will you still consi

by tux1968 6y ago

What if next year a more virulent strand of Covid comes along that kills almost everyone in the world who didn't get exposed to Covid-19. Will you still consider their measures as ALL WORKING? We have no idea how the future is going to unfold. Everyone is faking it while demanding that everyone do as they say.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago
What if next year aliens arrive and eat us all? There's no plausible argument from counterfactuals here. But let's pretend anyway - do you not think that even if a more virulent strain of Covid did arrive, country with proven measures in place has a better chance of dealing with the problem than a country whose current response is a chaotic shambles?
- tux1968 6y ago
  What i'm saying is there is a problem with monocultures. They are more susceptible to being wiped out in a single stroke. I'd say that following a scientific approach, we might want to consider not advocating for everyone to take the exact same course of action. Also, that we have to be careful to not judge success or failure too soon, that assessments can change after a bit more time has passed.
  - latchkey 6y ago
    If the course of action has the effect of saving lives, what is wrong with that? The measure of success is all past and current. If Vietnam loses control over covid, then we can definitely blame them for that. Why? Because they effectively controlled it in the first place. If they continue their direction, they will be one of the only countries on the planet, not totally infected. Pretty amazing really. If they start experimenting and doing things differently, at least they've setup the protocols for managing things correctly. Here in the US, we go through these bullshit 'phases' where we go from phase 2 to phase 3 and then back to phase 2. Well, anyone with half a brain could have figured out that wasn't going to work. At least Vietnam is taking this seriously. They shut their borders entirely... we (the US), can't even do that.
latchkey 6y ago
I cannot predict the future, I can only consider the past and think about the present, with an eye to the future. Faking what? Demanding what?
yibg 6y ago
What a strange argument to make. What if next year we discover anyone that is infected with the current covid all drops dead after a year of infection? We have no idea how the future is going to unfold so let’s all do random things?
kolinko 6y ago
Then will grab the original Covid-19 and get everyone sick with it before the deadly muted Covid-21 arrives.

TheOtherHobbes 6y ago

What if next year aliens arrive and eat us all? There's no plausible argument from counterfactuals here. But let's pretend anyway - do you not think that even if a more virulent strain of Covid did arrive, country with proven measures in place has a better chance of dealing with the problem than a country whose current response is a chaotic shambles?

tux1968 6y ago
What i'm saying is there is a problem with monocultures. They are more susceptible to being wiped out in a single stroke. I'd say that following a scientific approach, we might want to consider not advocating for everyone to take the exact same course of action. Also, that we have to be careful to not judge success or failure too soon, that assessments can change after a bit more time has passed.
- latchkey 6y ago
  If the course of action has the effect of saving lives, what is wrong with that? The measure of success is all past and current. If Vietnam loses control over covid, then we can definitely blame them for that. Why? Because they effectively controlled it in the first place. If they continue their direction, they will be one of the only countries on the planet, not totally infected. Pretty amazing really. If they start experimenting and doing things differently, at least they've setup the protocols for managing things correctly. Here in the US, we go through these bullshit 'phases' where we go from phase 2 to phase 3 and then back to phase 2. Well, anyone with half a brain could have figured out that wasn't going to work. At least Vietnam is taking this seriously. They shut their borders entirely... we (the US), can't even do that.

latchkey 6y ago

I cannot predict the future, I can only consider the past and think about the present, with an eye to the future. Faking what? Demanding what?

yibg 6y ago

What a strange argument to make. What if next year we discover anyone that is infected with the current covid all drops dead after a year of infection? We have no idea how the future is going to unfold so let’s all do random things?

kolinko 6y ago

Then will grab the original Covid-19 and get everyone sick with it before the deadly muted Covid-21 arrives.