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I can see the appeal of doing this, and for things like UI design it makes alot of sense, but it seems too easy to cross ethical lines. Theranos basically did t

I can see the appeal of doing this, and for things like UI design it makes alot of sense, but it seems too easy to cross ethical lines. Theranos basically did this, though of course on a vastly larger scale and over a longer time period. In the beginning, it's easy to tell ones self that filling in the gaps will come naturally once funding and interest are available. when there are difficulties executing on promises, it creates a choice between perpetuating the dishonesty for a low cost, or coming clean for a much higher cost. As time goes on, the feedback continues until there is some kind of breaking point. If you're going to do this, you had better be damn sure you can deliver, and have some sort of pre-determined go/no-go points to prevent things from getting out of hand.

yummypaint 6y ago
Here is a relevant paragraph from investopedia: Proving that fraud has taken place requires the perpetrator to have committed specific acts. First, the perpetrator has to provide a false statement as a material fact. Second, the perpetrator had to have known that the statement was untrue. Third, the perpetrator had to have intended to deceive the victim. Fourth, the victim has to demonstrate that it relied on the false statement. And fifth, the victim had to have suffered damages as a result of acting on the intentionally false statement.
semy 6y ago
Well, we delivered and the people who signed up got invitation to the beta. This approach is everywhere but we forget somehow look at them differently. Look at the https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck ... They even collect money, but we are not sure if the whole company Tesla will be here in 2 months. Can we trust that companies will show us only super functioning thing?
- phalox 6y ago
  It's all in the way you communicate things... People should never feel fooled, but you can show them something that doesn't exist yet to start their imagination. But there are of course ethical lines. Here's an interesting read: https://www.mironov.com/lying/ https://www.mironov.com/lying/
  - semy 6y ago
    Thanks! :) I will take a look.

yummypaint 6y ago

Here is a relevant paragraph from investopedia: Proving that fraud has taken place requires the perpetrator to have committed specific acts. First, the perpetrator has to provide a false statement as a material fact. Second, the perpetrator had to have known that the statement was untrue. Third, the perpetrator had to have intended to deceive the victim. Fourth, the victim has to demonstrate that it relied on the false statement. And fifth, the victim had to have suffered damages as a result of acting on the intentionally false statement.

semy 6y ago

Well, we delivered and the people who signed up got invitation to the beta. This approach is everywhere but we forget somehow look at them differently. Look at the https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck ... They even collect money, but we are not sure if the whole company Tesla will be here in 2 months. Can we trust that companies will show us only super functioning thing?

phalox 6y ago
It's all in the way you communicate things... People should never feel fooled, but you can show them something that doesn't exist yet to start their imagination. But there are of course ethical lines. Here's an interesting read: https://www.mironov.com/lying/ https://www.mironov.com/lying/
- semy 6y ago
  Thanks! :) I will take a look.