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There are plenty of bible literalist traditions that present falsifiable events/ideas as historical facts. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creati

There are plenty of bible literalist traditions that present falsifiable events/ideas as historical facts. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism.

Alupis 6y ago
You cannot prove something does not exist. Therefore you cannot prove God does not exist. QED. There is a possibility somewhere there is a God, therefore it is necessary true that there is possibly a God. QED again. You can get trapped in logical fallacies all day with this stuff. > bible literalist traditions Which is where this argument falls apart. Just because some church, group, etc decides to interpret religious writings or lore a certain way, doesn't falsify all religions. As we've already seen - new scientific evidence reveals some truth about the Universe, and interpretations of religion, world-wide, are modified to co-exist with the new information. How you interpret some particular religion is up to you.
- Sessions 6y ago
  I don't think gp was claiming that all religious beliefs are false and all religious videos should be removed under this standard; or at least that's not the claim I'm making. I'm saying many religious traditions explicitly promote falsehoods as facts, and videos that espouse those teachings should be removed, if we follow this standard.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't perpetuate religious flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
lurquer 6y ago
An assertion that X happened in the past is fundamentally different from an assertion that X exists. The certitude one can achieve through evidence for (or against) the claim that the Earth is presently flat, can never be obtained for an assertion regarding a past event. You're mixing apples and oranges.
- nitrogen 6y ago
  This video, and the others on the Qualiasoup channel, cover the endgame of this type of discussion pretty well: https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY

Alupis 6y ago

You cannot prove something does not exist. Therefore you cannot prove God does not exist. QED. There is a possibility somewhere there is a God, therefore it is necessary true that there is possibly a God. QED again. You can get trapped in logical fallacies all day with this stuff. > bible literalist traditions Which is where this argument falls apart. Just because some church, group, etc decides to interpret religious writings or lore a certain way, doesn't falsify all religions. As we've already seen - new scientific evidence reveals some truth about the Universe, and interpretations of religion, world-wide, are modified to co-exist with the new information. How you interpret some particular religion is up to you.

Sessions 6y ago
I don't think gp was claiming that all religious beliefs are false and all religious videos should be removed under this standard; or at least that's not the claim I'm making. I'm saying many religious traditions explicitly promote falsehoods as facts, and videos that espouse those teachings should be removed, if we follow this standard.
dang 6y ago
Please don't perpetuate religious flamewars on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lurquer 6y ago

An assertion that X happened in the past is fundamentally different from an assertion that X exists. The certitude one can achieve through evidence for (or against) the claim that the Earth is presently flat, can never be obtained for an assertion regarding a past event. You're mixing apples and oranges.

nitrogen 6y ago
This video, and the others on the Qualiasoup channel, cover the endgame of this type of discussion pretty well: https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY