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This is the problem with combining services for infrastructure and services for discovery. Discovery, by definition, requires a carefully curated approach to f
by okennedy 6y ago
This is the problem with combining services for infrastructure and services for discovery. Discovery, by definition, requires a carefully curated approach to filter based on interest, applicability. This forces discovery services to take for the material shown and promoted. Given the scale that services like YouTube operate at, this requires automation that is invariably going to make stupid mistakes.
Infrastructure services on the other hand are dumb pipes, giving them a lot more leeway. Historically (e.g., the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA, the recent debates around Cloudflare and the far-right), society has proven to be far more tolerant of services simply hosting a video or a stream, than services promoting it or deriving benefit from it (e.g., through ads).
Arguably, the latter is also the more critical. A lot of smaller-scale entities (like your church) can tolerate losing promotion for a day or a week far better than they can tolerate losing their infrastructure.
- koheripbal 6y agoYoutube claims to be both though. This comment is sort of victim blaming. ...but I agree that people should not rely upon social media companies whenever possible to distribute content and communications, due to increasing efforts to police content.
- Shared404 6y agoI may be reading it wrong, but to me it seems less like victim blaming and more like explaining the situation that lead to the environment that lead to this event.
- okennedy 6y agoThis was exactly my intent. The problem is with YouTube trying to be a discovery service, while simultaneously requiring the use of its own infrastructure service to benefit from discovery. What is needed is discovery services that are not tied to any underlying infrastructure.
- tux1968 6y agoSo in the case where Youtube's automated filter flags an infraction, what about them just removing channels from the discovery service rather than pulling the underlying infrastructure out from under them?
- Shared404 6y agoI would think that would work, although I could see it going south in the case of "Google tried to hide the fact that they allowed this video to stay up."
- BolexNOLA 6y agoWhat emphasizes this issue further is the insane content you can wind up browsing after just 3-4 “suggested” clips on YouTube. I’ve watched folks get from pretty banal comedy sketches and the like to Ben Shapiro and Jordan Sather with no effort on brand new accounts.
- muddi900 6y agoIndeed. The best place I have found new accounts is a bigger youtube recommending them. Namely Austin McConnell.