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The missing perspective is that there are visa mills just as there are diploma mills, and that enforcement from both Immigration and Customs and Department of E
by HarryHirsch 6y ago
The missing perspective is that there are visa mills just as there are diploma mills, and that enforcement from both Immigration and Customs and Department of Education is piss-weak. They should have gotten on top of these institutions long ago, but they wouldn't, so here we are.
There is Georgia Tech, but there is also the College of Northern Virginia. Here is some background: https://cis.org/Report/Dregs-Higher-Education-Damage-Our-Immigration-System https://cis.org/Report/Dregs-Higher-Education-Damage-Our-Imm...
- jhpriestley 6y agoThe missing context on your comment is that the CIS is a hate group according to the SPLC, which is among other heinous things in favor of the family separation policy, a crime against humanity.
- HarryHirsch 6y agoCIS is a hate group That's embarrassing. But even so, if you don't deal with known abuses you get groups like this, so it's imperative on the government to get ahead of the crazy train.
- x3n0ph3n3 6y agoSPLC is a joke nowadays. They scoop up all sorts of names and label them hatemongers. It takes a lawsuit to get them to recant: [1] 1. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-nawaz-v-splc/562646/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/maajid-...
- jhpriestley 6y agoIf you think that one high-profile mistake makes them "a joke" then you might not be aware of how much work SPLC does. For example, here is their page on CIS, with hundreds of citations and direct quotes https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...
- corey_moncure 6y agoApproximately half of these quotes are completely void of race or hate at all. It's just that one disagrees with the politics of the other.
- kerneltime 6y agoSo instead of investigating visa mills, lets kick students out of US who are attending Georgia Tech? What was the saying about throwing the baby with the bath water..
- jmhwang7 6y agoWhy are you calling Georgia Tech a visa mill/diploma mill? It's not mentioned at all in that linked article.
- stonogo 6y agoI think the OP is contrasting Georgia Tech with a visa mill.
- brewdad 6y agoHe's using GT as an example of a "real" school with real online opportunities. The counterexample is Northern Virginia. On it's surface, with no prior knowledge of reputation, it can be hard to recognize the diploma mill from the legitimate program. This becomes even more difficult when the legit program is a lesser known, lower tier, but still properly functioning institution.
- mindslight 6y agoThat's basically the cycle of bloated USG bureaucracy in a nutshell. Don't predictably go after bad actors because there aren't enough enforcement resources to spend prosecuting small operations. Enact many overbearing draconian regulations in response to the continued existence of the bad actors. This creates chilling effects and compliance costs on the good actors. Large institutions benefit from their position becoming more entrenched with paperwork. Repeat.
- gnulinux 6y agoWhat you're missing is this is affecting all students in Georgia Tech, Harvard, MIT etc as well.