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> Watching a video of a black man being choked to death by a police officer, on camera, certainly makes me feel that we haven't completely eliminated Jim Crow.

> Watching a video of a black man being choked to death by a police officer, on camera, certainly makes me feel that we haven't completely eliminated Jim Crow. The USA is a big country, and you can have your pick of instances of police brutality to support any conclusion you want to draw. A white man choked to death, on camera, while police laugh? Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laughed-joked-he-lost-consciousness-handcuffs-minutes-later-he-died/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/01/police-laug... A white six-year-old shot to death by two black police, one of whom only served 21 months in jail for it? Coming right up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jeremy_Mardis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jeremy_Mardis Multiple studies showing police killings (though not violence) are not, on average, racially biased? http://jewishworldreview.com/0620/hughes061620.php3 http://jewishworldreview.com/0620/hughes061620.php3 Will this change your mind? No it won't: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23757135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23757135

mindslight 6y ago
Yes, unaccountable police are a problem for all races. But if you're actually concerned with reform, then you have to agree that Black Lives Matter is doing a fantastic job leading the charge.
- rbecker 6y ago
  Fantastic, as long as you ignore how whites are being cast as villains in a country where they are becoming a minority, and anyone who brings up statistics refuting this is denounced. Historically, such a situation always worked out great.
  - mindslight 6y ago
    I do not agree that Whites are being "cast as villains" by a significant portion of the BLM movement. I do agree that the few who are doing so are in the wrong. But it's all too easy to write off an entire group by focusing on a few social-media-amplified outliers.
    - rbecker 6y ago
      True, it's hard to get an unbiased picture, especially from abroad - is "White silence = violence" such an outlier? But in either case, I wouldn't write BLM off - just because I think they're wrong about some of the racial stuff, doesn't mean I think the rest of their platform is without merit.

mindslight 6y ago

Yes, unaccountable police are a problem for all races. But if you're actually concerned with reform, then you have to agree that Black Lives Matter is doing a fantastic job leading the charge.

rbecker 6y ago
Fantastic, as long as you ignore how whites are being cast as villains in a country where they are becoming a minority, and anyone who brings up statistics refuting this is denounced. Historically, such a situation always worked out great.
- mindslight 6y ago
  I do not agree that Whites are being "cast as villains" by a significant portion of the BLM movement. I do agree that the few who are doing so are in the wrong. But it's all too easy to write off an entire group by focusing on a few social-media-amplified outliers.
  - rbecker 6y ago
    True, it's hard to get an unbiased picture, especially from abroad - is "White silence = violence" such an outlier? But in either case, I wouldn't write BLM off - just because I think they're wrong about some of the racial stuff, doesn't mean I think the rest of their platform is without merit.