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I would guess there are some passages from many religions' sacred texts which could get your whole channel deleted if promoted. Unless there's a written or unwr

I would guess there are some passages from many religions' sacred texts which could get your whole channel deleted if promoted. Unless there's a written or unwritten exception. The conflict or tension that troubles me the most is between platforms' incentive to have the most vague and broad TOS and users' reasonable expectation of consistency and explanation. The same tension exists in government police/arrest powers and resulted in many historic documents and rights. YT is not a government but their power rivals many actual countries. It will be interesting to see if the same revolutionary actions result. I don't think it's clear yet that it will or could happen.

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jandrese 6y ago
* This section of the Bible is copyright BMG Music Group and has been removed. This is your first strike.
- kangnkodos 6y ago
  Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds
- wlll 6y ago
  To paraphrase Red Dwarf: Newsreader: Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    That's a quote, not a paraphrase
    - wlll 6y ago
      I can't find an authoritative source for the original quote, so I found something that I believe to be close but didn't want to give it the authority of "quote" as it could be innacurate.
- SamReidHughes 6y ago
  Many bible translations are in fact copyrighted.
  - jandrese 6y ago
    Hopefully not by unrelated third parties that like to release bots that claim all sorts of random content is under their copyright and take it down.
  - gorgoiler 6y ago
    I don’t think this is surprising? KJV, for example, is such a foundational and original cornerstone of English language poetry that if it were to have been created in 2020 I would fully expect it to be copyrighted.
    - yarrel 6y ago
      It's under copyrightish in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_s...
      - abrowne 6y ago
        "[T]the letters patent are held by the Queen's Printer [… T]he Queen's Printer is now Cambridge University Press […] Cambridge University Press permits the reproduction of at most 500 verses for 'liturgical and non-commercial educational use; if their prescribed acknowledgement is included, the quoted verses do not exceed 25% of the publication quoting them and do not include a complete Bible book."
        colonwqbang 6y ago
        The monarchy is founded on "the grace of God" so it makes a kind of twisted sense that they should collect the license fee to peddle God's book. Given that God himself is credited as author of at least parts of the Bible, the "life of the author plus 70 years" doctrine of copyright should help keep the Bible out of the public domain for the foreseeable future.
sixothree 6y ago
Imagine posting some of the things our president posts or says verbatim. Just start with the whole white genocide and banning of muslims....
- Natanael_L 6y ago
  That gets people banned https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-donald-trump-suspendthepres-experiment-policies-suspension-glorifying-violence-2020-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-donald-trump-suspend...
  - sixothree 6y ago
    I imagine most people would get fired for such an offense. Not sure why I was getting downvoted.
msla 6y ago
Psalm 137:9 Yes, there's context. How often does context help?
- xamuel 6y ago
  The whole of Psalm 137 is actually quite relevant in this whole censorship discussion. "By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion. There on the willows we hung our harps, for there our captors requested a song; our tormentors demanded songs of joy: 'Sing us a song of Zion.' How can we sing a song of the LORD in a foreign land?" Be sure to check out the awesome Reggae take on it by The Melodians, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAb5rYRXvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAb5rYRXvs, as well as the great pop cover by Boney-M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK9iCRb7S4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK9iCRb7S4. Although, unfortunately, yes, both versions leave out the bit about dashing infants against rocks. After all, this is a foreign land, and if the Psalm were sung in full, it would be unacceptable to our captors!

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jandrese 6y ago

* This section of the Bible is copyright BMG Music Group and has been removed. This is your first strike.

kangnkodos 6y ago
Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds
wlll 6y ago
To paraphrase Red Dwarf: Newsreader: Good evening. Here is the news on Friday, the 27th of Geldof. Archeologists near mount Sinai have discovered what is believed to be a missing page from the Bible. The page is currently being carbon dated in Bonn. If genuine it belongs at the beginning of the Bible and is believed to read "To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental." The page has been universally condemned by church leaders.
- iso1631 6y ago
  That's a quote, not a paraphrase
  - wlll 6y ago
    I can't find an authoritative source for the original quote, so I found something that I believe to be close but didn't want to give it the authority of "quote" as it could be innacurate.
SamReidHughes 6y ago
Many bible translations are in fact copyrighted.
- jandrese 6y ago
  Hopefully not by unrelated third parties that like to release bots that claim all sorts of random content is under their copyright and take it down.
- gorgoiler 6y ago
  I don’t think this is surprising? KJV, for example, is such a foundational and original cornerstone of English language poetry that if it were to have been created in 2020 I would fully expect it to be copyrighted.
  - yarrel 6y ago
    It's under copyrightish in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_s...
    - abrowne 6y ago
      "[T]the letters patent are held by the Queen's Printer [… T]he Queen's Printer is now Cambridge University Press […] Cambridge University Press permits the reproduction of at most 500 verses for 'liturgical and non-commercial educational use; if their prescribed acknowledgement is included, the quoted verses do not exceed 25% of the publication quoting them and do not include a complete Bible book."
      - colonwqbang 6y ago
        The monarchy is founded on "the grace of God" so it makes a kind of twisted sense that they should collect the license fee to peddle God's book. Given that God himself is credited as author of at least parts of the Bible, the "life of the author plus 70 years" doctrine of copyright should help keep the Bible out of the public domain for the foreseeable future.

sixothree 6y ago

Imagine posting some of the things our president posts or says verbatim. Just start with the whole white genocide and banning of muslims....

Natanael_L 6y ago
That gets people banned https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-donald-trump-suspendthepres-experiment-policies-suspension-glorifying-violence-2020-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-donald-trump-suspend...
- sixothree 6y ago
  I imagine most people would get fired for such an offense. Not sure why I was getting downvoted.

msla 6y ago

Psalm 137:9 Yes, there's context. How often does context help?

xamuel 6y ago
The whole of Psalm 137 is actually quite relevant in this whole censorship discussion. "By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion. There on the willows we hung our harps, for there our captors requested a song; our tormentors demanded songs of joy: 'Sing us a song of Zion.' How can we sing a song of the LORD in a foreign land?" Be sure to check out the awesome Reggae take on it by The Melodians, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAb5rYRXvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAb5rYRXvs, as well as the great pop cover by Boney-M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK9iCRb7S4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYK9iCRb7S4. Although, unfortunately, yes, both versions leave out the bit about dashing infants against rocks. After all, this is a foreign land, and if the Psalm were sung in full, it would be unacceptable to our captors!