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I have a 6 year old daughter who has been taking lessons with the 3rd graders this past year. I just had a conference with her teachers and they are ok to jump

by tmaly 6y ago

I have a 6 year old daughter who has been taking lessons with the 3rd graders this past year. I just had a conference with her teachers and they are ok to jump her a grade. They thought two grades would have been too much socially. But they did agree to give her advanced lessons. She is in a Montessori where grades 1-3 are together. I really believe all children have the potential for genius. Its all in how they are raised and what they are taught at a young age. The Pygmalion effect has massive power over young developing minds.

nouveaux 6y ago
Would you care to elaborate on the Pygmalion effect? How did you raise your child?
- tmaly 6y ago
  There is a positive to this effect that can really help the child grow and thrive. https://bigworldlittleom.com/the-pygmalion-effect-and-its-effect-on-your-child/ https://bigworldlittleom.com/the-pygmalion-effect-and-its-ef... But there is also a negative side to it that can destroy a child's self esteem. https://www.wisdomtimes.com/the-pygmalion-effect-at-home/ https://www.wisdomtimes.com/the-pygmalion-effect-at-home/
- tmaly 6y ago
  My wife and I read to her a lot when she was young. We gave her lots of open ended play with lots of arts and crafts. My wife taught her to read right around when she turned 4. I was also applying some of the techniques from Glen Doman in his book How to teach your Baby to Read. I think learning to read is what really helped her excel. She was reading 2nd grade chapter books by the time she started kindergarten. Once you know how to read, you can learn about the other subjects. There is more that we did, but I think reading to her and teaching her to read where the biggest parts of it. The idea that any child has the potential for genius came from Glen's book. I really think its true. Even if you only spent 15-30 minutes a day, that is enough to have a profound influence on the child.
gwern 6y ago
The Pygmalion effect is complete rubbish. If you look into it, you see that the original study was p-hacked garbage which relied on impossible gains like individual students gaining literally hundreds of IQ points (yes, really, they reported this with a straight face and built an entire literature on it, which immediately showed massive decline effects so now the meta-analyses argue over whether the actual effect, which is now like 100x smaller than originally claimed, is distinguishable from 0 or systematic biases). Links: https://www.gwern.net/Replication#pygmalion-effect https://www.gwern.net/Replication#pygmalion-effect My opinionated summary of Rosenthal's oeuvre: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1798638457 https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1798638457 We see the same thing for growth mindset, BTW, if you compare the original studies which made it famous with the most recent rigorous large-scale studies (and then extrapolate out the usual decline effect in long-term followups).
- tmaly 6y ago
  I did not mention it to imply it would lead to a bump in IQ points. I believe the psychological effect is the most important/dangerous aspect of it.

by tmaly 6y ago

nouveaux 6y ago

Would you care to elaborate on the Pygmalion effect? How did you raise your child?

tmaly 6y ago
There is a positive to this effect that can really help the child grow and thrive. https://bigworldlittleom.com/the-pygmalion-effect-and-its-effect-on-your-child/ https://bigworldlittleom.com/the-pygmalion-effect-and-its-ef... But there is also a negative side to it that can destroy a child's self esteem. https://www.wisdomtimes.com/the-pygmalion-effect-at-home/ https://www.wisdomtimes.com/the-pygmalion-effect-at-home/
tmaly 6y ago
My wife and I read to her a lot when she was young. We gave her lots of open ended play with lots of arts and crafts. My wife taught her to read right around when she turned 4. I was also applying some of the techniques from Glen Doman in his book How to teach your Baby to Read. I think learning to read is what really helped her excel. She was reading 2nd grade chapter books by the time she started kindergarten. Once you know how to read, you can learn about the other subjects. There is more that we did, but I think reading to her and teaching her to read where the biggest parts of it. The idea that any child has the potential for genius came from Glen's book. I really think its true. Even if you only spent 15-30 minutes a day, that is enough to have a profound influence on the child.

gwern 6y ago

The Pygmalion effect is complete rubbish. If you look into it, you see that the original study was p-hacked garbage which relied on impossible gains like individual students gaining literally hundreds of IQ points (yes, really, they reported this with a straight face and built an entire literature on it, which immediately showed massive decline effects so now the meta-analyses argue over whether the actual effect, which is now like 100x smaller than originally claimed, is distinguishable from 0 or systematic biases). Links: https://www.gwern.net/Replication#pygmalion-effect https://www.gwern.net/Replication#pygmalion-effect My opinionated summary of Rosenthal's oeuvre: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1798638457 https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1798638457 We see the same thing for growth mindset, BTW, if you compare the original studies which made it famous with the most recent rigorous large-scale studies (and then extrapolate out the usual decline effect in long-term followups).

tmaly 6y ago
I did not mention it to imply it would lead to a bump in IQ points. I believe the psychological effect is the most important/dangerous aspect of it.