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If the reason for the Visa in the first place is to allow students to attend classes, and there are no classes to attend, what is the problem with this? Seems

by paul_f 6y ago

If the reason for the Visa in the first place is to allow students to attend classes, and there are no classes to attend, what is the problem with this? Seems if a University has no in person classes, most all students will stay home, avoid high priced dorms, dining plans, etc., and campus will be empty anyway.

handoflixue 6y ago
> If the reason for the Visa in the first place is to allow students to attend classes, and there are no classes to attend, what is the problem with this? If this had been announced in March, I'd feel very differently. College usually starts in September, about two months away. Sure, two months isn't an unreasonable time for finding new housing - but usually when you're moving you've got a lot more warning than that. Add the complication that they need to relocate to another country, which will include international airfare. If any of them own anything that doesn't fit in a carry-on, they now have to look in to international shipping or replacing it. And, again, they only have two months to do this. I usually start planning international travel 3-6 months in advance so that I can get a good price on tickets.
- Fjolsvith 6y ago
  With airline ticket prices dropping, they shouldn't be hit as hard.
k8si 6y ago
Not all students are from countries with great internet access. If you're a Chinese student, you might not have access to many apps professors might assume you'd have access to. The living situation you go back to might not be conducive to studying. Time zone changes will pose a challenge for keeping jobs, maintaining friendships, and doing job networking.
spacechild1 6y ago
As far as I understand, the original purpose of the rule is to prevent people from entering the US with a student visa without actually studying on site. It doesn't make sense in the context of Covid for people who are already living and studying in the US. They didn't choose an online course, why should they have to leave the country? It doesn't help anybody, it only causes unnecessary harm. I have several friends who currently do their PhDs in the US. They are not amused.

by paul_f 6y ago

handoflixue 6y ago

> If the reason for the Visa in the first place is to allow students to attend classes, and there are no classes to attend, what is the problem with this? If this had been announced in March, I'd feel very differently. College usually starts in September, about two months away. Sure, two months isn't an unreasonable time for finding new housing - but usually when you're moving you've got a lot more warning than that. Add the complication that they need to relocate to another country, which will include international airfare. If any of them own anything that doesn't fit in a carry-on, they now have to look in to international shipping or replacing it. And, again, they only have two months to do this. I usually start planning international travel 3-6 months in advance so that I can get a good price on tickets.

Fjolsvith 6y ago
With airline ticket prices dropping, they shouldn't be hit as hard.

k8si 6y ago

Not all students are from countries with great internet access. If you're a Chinese student, you might not have access to many apps professors might assume you'd have access to. The living situation you go back to might not be conducive to studying. Time zone changes will pose a challenge for keeping jobs, maintaining friendships, and doing job networking.

spacechild1 6y ago

As far as I understand, the original purpose of the rule is to prevent people from entering the US with a student visa without actually studying on site. It doesn't make sense in the context of Covid for people who are already living and studying in the US. They didn't choose an online course, why should they have to leave the country? It doesn't help anybody, it only causes unnecessary harm. I have several friends who currently do their PhDs in the US. They are not amused.