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Yes, the chip team at Apple is likely worth tens of billions on their own. Think about how many companies out there that would pay top dollar to have the chip p
by gigatexal 6y ago
Yes, the chip team at Apple is likely worth tens of billions on their own. Think about how many companies out there that would pay top dollar to have the chip performance that Apple does. I know the ARM ISA != Intel's X86 but on a perf v perf basis if Apple-level-performance CPUs were available to the mass market Intel would be in a world of hurt and would likely have to drop prices even more aggressively than it does when AMD puts out a competent chip.
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago> if Apple-level-performance CPUs were available to the mass market Intel would be in a world of hurt Amazon are betting on this on the server side. They've developed a number of ARM-powered EC2 instance types: A1, M6g, C6g, and R6g. They haven't yet made a burstable ARM instance type.
- gpderetta 6y agoAmazon doesn't have access to Apple CPUs, although ARM own designs have finally become quite reasonable for server workloads (and thats what Amazon is using)
- gigatexal 6y agoright, and I don't think the above person was insinuating as much just that a company with large enough pockets like Amazon could take the ARM ISA and do what Apple did and make their own custom silicon for their own purposes. Or at least, that's what I hope they are doing.
- MaxBarraclough 6y agoRight, I hadn't meant to imply that Amazon are licensing Apple's ARM chips. I quoted Apple-level-performance CPUs after all, not Apple's CPUs. As you both rightly say, the ARM CPUs Amazon are using are not the same as Apple's. Instead, they are custom built for Amazon. [0][1] [0] https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powered-by-arm-based-aws-graviton-processors/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powere... [1] https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/12/announcing-new-amazon-ec2-m6g-c6g-and-r6g-instances-powered-by-next-generation-arm-based-aws-graviton2-processors/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/12/announcin...
- sudosysgen 6y agoSo far, per-watt and relative to the amount of I/O, Zen 2 Low-power is already more efficient than anything Apple has put out so far. So I don't think it would have that much of an impact.
- gigatexal 6y agoGot benchmarks to prove that? I’d be keen to see