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There’s a quite a large difference between Google spying and China spying. When Google “spies”, users get more relevant ads. When China spies, people get into “
by lightgreen 6y ago
There’s a quite a large difference between Google spying and China spying. When Google “spies”, users get more relevant ads. When China spies, people get into “Vocational Education and Training Centers” and other bad things happen.
Chinese spying is like 10000 times worse in practice.
But in theory, when dealing in absolutes, there is no difference, both are spies.
- apexalpha 6y agoLet's be honest: Google has been known to be in bed with the NSA and other agencies as well. It's very disingenuous to pretend Google only serves you ads but has no relations to the US national intelligence community but Chinese apps do.
- lightgreen 6y agoIf you have some references to confirm your theory about Google and NSA, please share a link. Otherwise it is just ZOG theory. Also, the statement about “being in bed” is very vague and non informative.
- myopenid2 6y agoFeigning ignorance doesn't make facts disappear.
- lightgreen 6y agoThis would be much more productive conversation if someone explained what they mean by Google being in bed with NSA and shared a link.
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- chaos_a 6y agothe difference is that the US is using spying to stop people from doing illegal things. China is using spying to silence/monitor anyone who disagrees with it's government. Yes, both countries are definitely spying on people via social media apps. But what they're using it for is different.
- apexalpha 6y agoBoth governments use spying to stop people from doing things they made illegal in their countries. I'm not here to argue the Chinese government is better than the US one. It's absolutely and unquestionably worse. But from a perspective in Europe they're both foreign governments that I have no say in and that are not here for my best interest.
- rydre 6y agoIf you really have European interests at heart, you would be banning both American and Chinese apps to give room for your incumbents to rise.
- apexalpha 6y agoI've made that argument a few hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23755863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23755863
- hellomyguys 6y ago>the difference is that the US is using spying to stop people from doing illegal things. I don't think this is entirely accurate...
- stunt 6y ago> When Google “spies”, users get more relevant ads. Not always about ads. Remember Cambridge Analytica data scandal.