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Side note, in my YouTube feed recommendations I got 3 videos lately that were all very clearly Chinese state propaganda. YT normally doesn't recommend anything

Side note, in my YouTube feed recommendations I got 3 videos lately that were all very clearly Chinese state propaganda. YT normally doesn't recommend anything outside the limited few topics I have subscriptions for. I shall don't follow anything political or "Asian" at all... the feed is tightly the same few things.

disgu 6y ago
> YT normally doesn't recommend anything outside the limited few topics I have subscriptions for. You might not have noticed this in the past, but they rotate through various topics that might be of interest to you and recommend them even if you've never searched for anything like it. They've always done this, there are talks on YouTube from them about it as well.
libraryatnight 6y ago
Got an example video? I'm curious.
- easytiger 6y ago
  I just scrolled through my home feed for miles and they have disappeared. Indeed literally only seeing videos related to gaming, golf and gaming pcs. Nothing else AT ALL. But old videos like the below were in it a few days ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V14W8A73XW0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V14W8A73XW0 Oh and this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vpLxGktPoA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vpLxGktPoA
  - baddox 6y ago
    That looks nearly identical in content to a vast number of extremely common human-interest segments in American media.
    - easytiger 6y ago
      They (5 month old uploads) don't show up randomly in my almost entirely monotonous YouTube feed though.
      - asutekku 6y ago
        Your youtube feed is not as curated as you would think it is. Google adds trending videos there, whether they are old or new, depending on your viewing history. There’s absolutely no way to be 100% in control of the feed.
  - chvid 6y ago
    SCMP is the largest English language newspaper in Asia and has been around for a long time. It is not Chinese propaganda in any meaningful sense. But I will give you the two videos look a bit cheesy but hey ... taste varies across the world.
    - woutr_be 6y ago
      > It is not Chinese propaganda in any meaningful sense. Even throughout the protests, I've always found SCMP to be fairly neutral. But do keep in mind SCMP is owned by Alibaba.
  - DonaldFisk 6y ago
    Those are from the South China Morning Post, which was founded in 1903 and is based in Hong Kong. It's worth reading to learn what's happening there. It is not Chinese state propaganda.
    - MagnumOpus 6y ago
      South China Morning Post was taken over by Jack Ma, billionaire card carrying member of the Chinese Communist Party, five years ago. Since then it toes the line of the Beijing regime.
      - FooBarWidget 6y ago
        So toe the party line so much, that they're still publishing Beijing-critical articles, like this one: https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091580/how-national-security-law-strikes-heart-hong-kongs-judicial https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091580/how-nat... Sounds to me like they're not doing a very good job at toeing the party line.
        easytiger 6y ago
        Do you genuinely not understand how someone might buy an unsympathetic publication to leverage its user trust to your own advantage? It is not new, nor China specific. You have 5 other comments here asserting the same thing.
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      - propertymagnate 6y ago
        The parent seems to be correct, the wikipedia page mentions a jornalist being fired for "incorrectly" quoting Jack Ma in relation to the pro-democracy protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post#Editorial_stance_and_staff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post#Edito...
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  - FooBarWidget 6y ago
    Ridiculous. These videos are not even political in nature, they just show events that happen in normal Chinese society. So showing positive societal events is now "propaganda"? It's not okay to have a good opinion of everyday Chinese people? What happened to "we are against the CCP, not the Chinese people"?
    - easytiger 6y ago
      As per my other comment to which you replied, it's perfectly possible to embrace allowing criticism to inspire trust in a source so as to best leverage it when you need it. Normal Chinese utopia here. Nothing to see. The point is they showed up on my tightly curated YouTube feed as 5 month old videos. And, again, you repeatedly post actual propaganda on your twitter feed, so I'm not sure you are as reasonable a commentator as you assert
      - FooBarWidget 6y ago
        Looks like you are convinced that anybody who doesn't agree with you on China-related topics, is automatically a CCP shill. Let's completely ignore my long online history too. This is not a reasonable stance. It would be as reasonable as me calling you a CIA agent because of your non-stop "anti-China propaganda" (which is actually just your opinion, misguided as I believe it is).
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disgu 6y ago

> YT normally doesn't recommend anything outside the limited few topics I have subscriptions for. You might not have noticed this in the past, but they rotate through various topics that might be of interest to you and recommend them even if you've never searched for anything like it. They've always done this, there are talks on YouTube from them about it as well.

libraryatnight 6y ago

Got an example video? I'm curious.

easytiger 6y ago
I just scrolled through my home feed for miles and they have disappeared. Indeed literally only seeing videos related to gaming, golf and gaming pcs. Nothing else AT ALL. But old videos like the below were in it a few days ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V14W8A73XW0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V14W8A73XW0 Oh and this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vpLxGktPoA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vpLxGktPoA
- baddox 6y ago
  That looks nearly identical in content to a vast number of extremely common human-interest segments in American media.
  - easytiger 6y ago
    They (5 month old uploads) don't show up randomly in my almost entirely monotonous YouTube feed though.
    - asutekku 6y ago
      Your youtube feed is not as curated as you would think it is. Google adds trending videos there, whether they are old or new, depending on your viewing history. There’s absolutely no way to be 100% in control of the feed.
- chvid 6y ago
  SCMP is the largest English language newspaper in Asia and has been around for a long time. It is not Chinese propaganda in any meaningful sense. But I will give you the two videos look a bit cheesy but hey ... taste varies across the world.
  - woutr_be 6y ago
    > It is not Chinese propaganda in any meaningful sense. Even throughout the protests, I've always found SCMP to be fairly neutral. But do keep in mind SCMP is owned by Alibaba.
- DonaldFisk 6y ago
  Those are from the South China Morning Post, which was founded in 1903 and is based in Hong Kong. It's worth reading to learn what's happening there. It is not Chinese state propaganda.
  - MagnumOpus 6y ago
    South China Morning Post was taken over by Jack Ma, billionaire card carrying member of the Chinese Communist Party, five years ago. Since then it toes the line of the Beijing regime.
    - FooBarWidget 6y ago
      So toe the party line so much, that they're still publishing Beijing-critical articles, like this one: https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091580/how-national-security-law-strikes-heart-hong-kongs-judicial https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091580/how-nat... Sounds to me like they're not doing a very good job at toeing the party line.
      - easytiger 6y ago
        Do you genuinely not understand how someone might buy an unsympathetic publication to leverage its user trust to your own advantage? It is not new, nor China specific. You have 5 other comments here asserting the same thing.
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    - propertymagnate 6y ago
      The parent seems to be correct, the wikipedia page mentions a jornalist being fired for "incorrectly" quoting Jack Ma in relation to the pro-democracy protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post#Editorial_stance_and_staff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post#Edito...
    - 6y ago
- FooBarWidget 6y ago
  Ridiculous. These videos are not even political in nature, they just show events that happen in normal Chinese society. So showing positive societal events is now "propaganda"? It's not okay to have a good opinion of everyday Chinese people? What happened to "we are against the CCP, not the Chinese people"?
  - easytiger 6y ago
    As per my other comment to which you replied, it's perfectly possible to embrace allowing criticism to inspire trust in a source so as to best leverage it when you need it. Normal Chinese utopia here. Nothing to see. The point is they showed up on my tightly curated YouTube feed as 5 month old videos. And, again, you repeatedly post actual propaganda on your twitter feed, so I'm not sure you are as reasonable a commentator as you assert
    - FooBarWidget 6y ago
      Looks like you are convinced that anybody who doesn't agree with you on China-related topics, is automatically a CCP shill. Let's completely ignore my long online history too. This is not a reasonable stance. It would be as reasonable as me calling you a CIA agent because of your non-stop "anti-China propaganda" (which is actually just your opinion, misguided as I believe it is).

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