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I love Ubiquiti, but that's because I'm a home user. I'd never deploy them for a customer. It was obvious Protect was going to be the only solution going forwa

I love Ubiquiti, but that's because I'm a home user. I'd never deploy them for a customer. It was obvious Protect was going to be the only solution going forward as soon as they announced it years ago. I can't fathom the surprise by anyone in that thread, because this is what they do with all of their products. They announce the replacement, lie about not phasing out the current product, and then two years later phase it out anyways. This happens every single time and should not be a shock when it happens. Next up is probably EdgeOS. That might be different just because a lot of ISPs use it, but they keep pushing UNMS and some of their new products require it (see their EA store).

locusm 6y ago
I've used EdgeMax and lots of their AP's on customer sites, amazing bang for buck. That said, Ive read future Edge devices are UNMS only. Unifi video always felt like an entry level product for home users only.
- specto 6y ago
  Wait really? UNMS only would devalue EdgeMax routers in a huge way...
  - locusm 6y ago
    This thread here - https://community.ui.com/questions/Introducing-the-all-new-UNMS-Product-Line-Starting-with-the-UNMS-Switch-Lite/56c20ac0-ff2d-4fa3-a71b-4ce59759b33a https://community.ui.com/questions/Introducing-the-all-new-U... Seem to avoid the question of having a fully featured CLI
    - broknbottle 6y ago
      404s for me
    - locusm 6y ago
      Looks like that link requires login. One of the UI people responded but it looks like Edgemax wont be further developed. ---------------- Hello everyone, Like mentioned earlier, the EdgeMAX product line will still be supported and can be managed from the UNMS Controller (now and in the future). The EdgeSwitch and EdgeRouter products also provide an extensive Command Line Interface. Hi @WISPConsult.com , We are planning on releasing many more WISP-focused UNMS hardware devices. The UNMS-S-Lite is only the first announced device that is part of an extensive line of products. Hi @ednlcna , It is also possible to use a self-hosted UNMS instance (on-premises or third-party Cloud provider). -Ben
syshum 6y ago
Home user also. I will no longer be buying or recommending UI products. Looks like I am off to find a new networking vendor. Maybe mikrotik
- locusm 6y ago
  Edge was forked from Vyatta I believe which is now VyOS. https://www.vyos.io/ https://www.vyos.io/
  - mustardo 6y ago
    Yip, run it myself and its great
- glogla 6y ago
  Mikrotik is pretty good for ISP-style stuff - CPEs, routers with OSPF, etc. They are rock stable and get long-term support. Great value for the money but don't expect state of the art tech or best performance. For "better wifi", TP-LINK EAP line of APs is pretty good - they sell controller separately but it works without. Cisco WAP line was good as well, but it was discontinued I think. But a lot of people are happy with "better" consumer routers, like better Asus (say RT-AX88) with custom firmware - or the ultimate geeky toy, Turris Omnia (I have that one). None of that will give you the slick UI of ubnt. But it would give you more stability and less planned obsolescence and unnecessary cloud integration.
  - syshum 6y ago
    flashy UI was not the selling point for UI to me, the ability to manage multiple AP's in a single interface and add new AP's to the network seamlessly were the 2 main driving points for me. If you only have a single AP it is over kill for sure, but if you need multiple AP's then it is a great system TP-Link EAP systems looks integrating I will have to look into that more. Thanks for the suggestions
lsllc 6y ago
The EdgeMax switches / EdgeRouter routers are pretty good and I really like UNMS for managing them. I just wish they'd fix this schism between EdgeMax/UNMS and UniFi -- I have EdgeMax routing and switching hardware, but UniFi access points. I find that the UniFi versions of the same routers/switches are not quite powerful enough. Perfectly fine for a high-end consumer, but it gets sticky with a more complex setup, IPSec tunnels with the USGs for example vs the same on the Edge Routers. The downside of mixing/matching UniFi with EdgeOS is that you don't get the seamless UniFi management experience that you would with a USG, UniFi Switch and APs (which is really quite nice).

locusm 6y ago

I've used EdgeMax and lots of their AP's on customer sites, amazing bang for buck. That said, Ive read future Edge devices are UNMS only. Unifi video always felt like an entry level product for home users only.

specto 6y ago
Wait really? UNMS only would devalue EdgeMax routers in a huge way...
- locusm 6y ago
  This thread here - https://community.ui.com/questions/Introducing-the-all-new-UNMS-Product-Line-Starting-with-the-UNMS-Switch-Lite/56c20ac0-ff2d-4fa3-a71b-4ce59759b33a https://community.ui.com/questions/Introducing-the-all-new-U... Seem to avoid the question of having a fully featured CLI
  - broknbottle 6y ago
    404s for me
  - locusm 6y ago
    Looks like that link requires login. One of the UI people responded but it looks like Edgemax wont be further developed. ---------------- Hello everyone, Like mentioned earlier, the EdgeMAX product line will still be supported and can be managed from the UNMS Controller (now and in the future). The EdgeSwitch and EdgeRouter products also provide an extensive Command Line Interface. Hi @WISPConsult.com , We are planning on releasing many more WISP-focused UNMS hardware devices. The UNMS-S-Lite is only the first announced device that is part of an extensive line of products. Hi @ednlcna , It is also possible to use a self-hosted UNMS instance (on-premises or third-party Cloud provider). -Ben

syshum 6y ago

Home user also. I will no longer be buying or recommending UI products. Looks like I am off to find a new networking vendor. Maybe mikrotik

locusm 6y ago
Edge was forked from Vyatta I believe which is now VyOS. https://www.vyos.io/ https://www.vyos.io/
- mustardo 6y ago
  Yip, run it myself and its great
glogla 6y ago
Mikrotik is pretty good for ISP-style stuff - CPEs, routers with OSPF, etc. They are rock stable and get long-term support. Great value for the money but don't expect state of the art tech or best performance. For "better wifi", TP-LINK EAP line of APs is pretty good - they sell controller separately but it works without. Cisco WAP line was good as well, but it was discontinued I think. But a lot of people are happy with "better" consumer routers, like better Asus (say RT-AX88) with custom firmware - or the ultimate geeky toy, Turris Omnia (I have that one). None of that will give you the slick UI of ubnt. But it would give you more stability and less planned obsolescence and unnecessary cloud integration.
- syshum 6y ago
  flashy UI was not the selling point for UI to me, the ability to manage multiple AP's in a single interface and add new AP's to the network seamlessly were the 2 main driving points for me. If you only have a single AP it is over kill for sure, but if you need multiple AP's then it is a great system TP-Link EAP systems looks integrating I will have to look into that more. Thanks for the suggestions

lsllc 6y ago

The EdgeMax switches / EdgeRouter routers are pretty good and I really like UNMS for managing them. I just wish they'd fix this schism between EdgeMax/UNMS and UniFi -- I have EdgeMax routing and switching hardware, but UniFi access points. I find that the UniFi versions of the same routers/switches are not quite powerful enough. Perfectly fine for a high-end consumer, but it gets sticky with a more complex setup, IPSec tunnels with the USGs for example vs the same on the Edge Routers. The downside of mixing/matching UniFi with EdgeOS is that you don't get the seamless UniFi management experience that you would with a USG, UniFi Switch and APs (which is really quite nice).