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I'm not sure I understand what the product is and what it does - it seems more like a technology looking for a market. Is this a product that end users (car ow

by miahi 6y ago

I'm not sure I understand what the product is and what it does - it seems more like a technology looking for a market. Is this a product that end users (car owners) could buy? How would it be integrated with the car? As a driver who doesn't care about cyclists (as those are the ones causing most accidents), would you buy a specific device just for avoiding cyclists? Is it a product car manufacturers have to integrate in the car? Shouldn't this have a wider target than cyclists? How does it compare to the existing collision avoidance systems? If it's an optional safety system just for detecting cyclists, how do you sell it to the car buyer?

pmontra 6y ago
Yep, the article is very unclear about that. From the Luxonis site https://discuss.luxonis.com/d/8-it-works-working-prototype-of-commute-guardian https://discuss.luxonis.com/d/8-it-works-working-prototype-o... > So the final product is a multi-camera, rear-facing bike-light, which uses object detection and depth mapping to track the cars behind you It's for the cyclist. I'm both a car driver and a cyclist. I wonder if I want something like this on my bike and be unnecessarily scared by false positives (cars do get close to bicycles all the times and what can I do anyway?) or on my car just in case I don't notice a bicycle with no lights at night (plenty of them here.)
- miahi 6y ago
  Ok, so it's a camera implementation of the Garmin Varia bike radar, with special functions to scare away drivers. Yes, as you say, a false positive would be really annoying for both cyclists and the drivers, as they can blind them and actually create an accident (what happens when you suddenly see a powerful flashing light during the night? flashing lights on bikes are annoying enough as they are, without an extra-powerful setting).
- FridgeSeal 6y ago
  > I wonder if I want something like this on my bike and be unnecessarily scared by false positives Right? Also a cyclist, I can totally imagine this going (uselessly) wild when I do something like lane-slip through peak-hour traffic in the city.
  - ljf 6y ago
    And also if the horn goes off, would that make agri drivers more so? I used to have an air horn on my bike - it sounded like a lorry horn, and the issue was that drivers heard it and would stop but would normally assume it wasn't from me, and would carry on.
    - FridgeSeal 6y ago
      That's a really good point, it would definitely escalate aggressive drivers. I've had situations where I rode past someone (they were stopped in traffic), then they passed me again down the road (this repeated a couple of times) and every time I rolled past them, they'd descend further into apoplectic rage, I can't imagine flashing lights is going to help.
      - pmontra 6y ago
        I can imagine: they think they paid their car 100 times more than our bicycles (actually maybe only 10), they know they could go 10 times as fast as a bicycle (maybe only 5) and yet they are stuck in the traffic, go as slow as us and won't be at home much earlier (or much later.) When it happens to me to be a car driver I think that at least I'm enjoying heating or air conditioning but I'd like to be on my bicycle at least until I get out of the city.

by miahi 6y ago

pmontra 6y ago

Yep, the article is very unclear about that. From the Luxonis site https://discuss.luxonis.com/d/8-it-works-working-prototype-of-commute-guardian https://discuss.luxonis.com/d/8-it-works-working-prototype-o... > So the final product is a multi-camera, rear-facing bike-light, which uses object detection and depth mapping to track the cars behind you It's for the cyclist. I'm both a car driver and a cyclist. I wonder if I want something like this on my bike and be unnecessarily scared by false positives (cars do get close to bicycles all the times and what can I do anyway?) or on my car just in case I don't notice a bicycle with no lights at night (plenty of them here.)

miahi 6y ago
Ok, so it's a camera implementation of the Garmin Varia bike radar, with special functions to scare away drivers. Yes, as you say, a false positive would be really annoying for both cyclists and the drivers, as they can blind them and actually create an accident (what happens when you suddenly see a powerful flashing light during the night? flashing lights on bikes are annoying enough as they are, without an extra-powerful setting).
FridgeSeal 6y ago
> I wonder if I want something like this on my bike and be unnecessarily scared by false positives Right? Also a cyclist, I can totally imagine this going (uselessly) wild when I do something like lane-slip through peak-hour traffic in the city.
- ljf 6y ago
  And also if the horn goes off, would that make agri drivers more so? I used to have an air horn on my bike - it sounded like a lorry horn, and the issue was that drivers heard it and would stop but would normally assume it wasn't from me, and would carry on.
  - FridgeSeal 6y ago
    That's a really good point, it would definitely escalate aggressive drivers. I've had situations where I rode past someone (they were stopped in traffic), then they passed me again down the road (this repeated a couple of times) and every time I rolled past them, they'd descend further into apoplectic rage, I can't imagine flashing lights is going to help.
    - pmontra 6y ago
      I can imagine: they think they paid their car 100 times more than our bicycles (actually maybe only 10), they know they could go 10 times as fast as a bicycle (maybe only 5) and yet they are stuck in the traffic, go as slow as us and won't be at home much earlier (or much later.) When it happens to me to be a car driver I think that at least I'm enjoying heating or air conditioning but I'd like to be on my bicycle at least until I get out of the city.