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To be clear even before Trump students have not been eligible for a visa for online study. Not an opinion on if students who were going to study in person the

by bruceb 6y ago

To be clear even before Trump students have not been eligible for a visa for online study. Not an opinion on if students who were going to study in person the fall should get to come/stay just a clarification. Online school some students will mean having to sleep in day and do school at night, though for some it will mean vastly cheaper living costs. Painful for some, maybe sorta of beneficial for others. In the US, in college areas, bad for those renting out apartments, good for renters who will now see a reduction in rent.

addicted44 6y ago
Well, before this year there wasn't a global pandemic. That's really meaningless. This wouldnt be an issue if it had happened last year, or the year before, or the year before...1918. The point is that any functional government would have accounted for the fact that there is a global pandemic, which if nothing else, might actually make it impossible for some students to even leave the US, before publishing this guidance. Edit: Also, this is a deliberate undoing of a temporary allowance they had already made. From the first sentence of the linked document: > Temporary procedural adaptations related to online courses permitted by the Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) during the height of the Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)crisis will be modified for the fall 2020 semester.
klyrs 6y ago
> To be clear even before Trump students have not been eligible for a visa for online study. There have been concessions made throughout the pandemic, to alleviate its impact on citizens and businesses. It's true that this was forbidden before, but there's a choice made in every enforcement action. International students are a boon to the country. It costs good money to provide their education, and keeping them around afterward brings value not just in rent, but their very contributions to our society.

by bruceb 6y ago

addicted44 6y ago

Well, before this year there wasn't a global pandemic. That's really meaningless. This wouldnt be an issue if it had happened last year, or the year before, or the year before...1918. The point is that any functional government would have accounted for the fact that there is a global pandemic, which if nothing else, might actually make it impossible for some students to even leave the US, before publishing this guidance. Edit: Also, this is a deliberate undoing of a temporary allowance they had already made. From the first sentence of the linked document: > Temporary procedural adaptations related to online courses permitted by the Student and Exchange Visitor Program (SEVP) during the height of the Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)crisis will be modified for the fall 2020 semester.

klyrs 6y ago

> To be clear even before Trump students have not been eligible for a visa for online study. There have been concessions made throughout the pandemic, to alleviate its impact on citizens and businesses. It's true that this was forbidden before, but there's a choice made in every enforcement action. International students are a boon to the country. It costs good money to provide their education, and keeping them around afterward brings value not just in rent, but their very contributions to our society.