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Response: https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/tiktok-australia-responds-to-not-credible-ban-reports/news-story/45e14af49e0abc29236e6d0a89f31ab4 htt

Response: https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/tiktok-australia-responds-to-not-credible-ban-reports/news-story/45e14af49e0abc29236e6d0a89f31ab4 https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/tiktok-aust... “We place the highest importance on user privacy and integrity.” Sensible chuckle. Mr Hunter said the concerns over user data getting into the hands of the CCP are overblown and the data isn’t stored on Chinese servers. “TikTok Australia user data is stored in Singapore,” he said. Is this credible?

est 6y ago
> Is this credible? Have you tried access Chinese servers in Australia? It's awfully slow.
- m00x 6y ago
  This doesn't mean it's not duplicated on remote servers.
  - est 6y ago
    If a Chinese IP requests a public static video file on Singapore AWS S3 (Or whatever the CDN tiktok use) and stored it on a Chinese server, does this mean duplication?
- bassman9000 6y ago
  For you, maybe. For a Chinese company with ways around the Great Firewall, don't think so.
- aeyes 6y ago
  At least from here tiktok.com servers are in the US and their CDN is Akamai. And I'm far far away from the US. Also, take a look at their career page for engineering positions, most of them are in the US: https://careers.tiktok.com/position?category=6704215862603155720 https://careers.tiktok.com/position?category=670421586260315... bytedance.com loads from China.
fabianhjr 6y ago
As credible as any US-company: > The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[22] The speaker's notes in the briefing document reviewed by The Washington Post indicated that "98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%...
- bassman9000 6y ago
  Asked about TikTok and the CCP. If we're posting wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law Along with the Great Firewall, restrictions raise concerning voices, especially among foreign companies.[11] Regarding the requirements for spot-checks and certifications, international law firms have warned that companies could be asked to provide source code, encryption, or other crucial information for review by the authorities, increasing the risk of this information being lost, passed on to local competitors, or used by the authorities themselves.[1] The Federal Bureau of Investigation warned that the law could force companies transmitting data through servers in China to submit to data surveillance measures.[12] https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en The personal data that we collect from you will be transferred to, and stored at, a destination outside of the European Economic Area ("EEA"). It's not unreasonable to believe the same happens in Australia, which I doubt has a better model than the EU. Which prompts my question. EDIT: there's no indication in the US section as to where the data may be stored, or sent https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en#privacy-us https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en#privacy-... But they clearly say: We may share your information with a parent, subsidiary, or other affiliate of our corporate group. ByteDance in Beijing qualifies.
  - fabianhjr 6y ago
    I didn't mean to imply that either ByteDance or a US company would guard the personal data to which they have access.

est 6y ago

> Is this credible? Have you tried access Chinese servers in Australia? It's awfully slow.

m00x 6y ago
This doesn't mean it's not duplicated on remote servers.
- est 6y ago
  If a Chinese IP requests a public static video file on Singapore AWS S3 (Or whatever the CDN tiktok use) and stored it on a Chinese server, does this mean duplication?
bassman9000 6y ago
For you, maybe. For a Chinese company with ways around the Great Firewall, don't think so.
aeyes 6y ago
At least from here tiktok.com servers are in the US and their CDN is Akamai. And I'm far far away from the US. Also, take a look at their career page for engineering positions, most of them are in the US: https://careers.tiktok.com/position?category=6704215862603155720 https://careers.tiktok.com/position?category=670421586260315... bytedance.com loads from China.

fabianhjr 6y ago

As credible as any US-company: > The documents identified several technology companies as participants in the PRISM program, including Microsoft in 2007, Yahoo! in 2008, Google in 2009, Facebook in 2009, Paltalk in 2009, YouTube in 2010, AOL in 2011, Skype in 2011 and Apple in 2012.[22] The speaker's notes in the briefing document reviewed by The Washington Post indicated that "98 percent of PRISM production is based on Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%...

bassman9000 6y ago
Asked about TikTok and the CCP. If we're posting wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Security_Law Along with the Great Firewall, restrictions raise concerning voices, especially among foreign companies.[11] Regarding the requirements for spot-checks and certifications, international law firms have warned that companies could be asked to provide source code, encryption, or other crucial information for review by the authorities, increasing the risk of this information being lost, passed on to local competitors, or used by the authorities themselves.[1] The Federal Bureau of Investigation warned that the law could force companies transmitting data through servers in China to submit to data surveillance measures.[12] https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en The personal data that we collect from you will be transferred to, and stored at, a destination outside of the European Economic Area ("EEA"). It's not unreasonable to believe the same happens in Australia, which I doubt has a better model than the EU. Which prompts my question. EDIT: there's no indication in the US section as to where the data may be stored, or sent https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en#privacy-us https://www.tiktok.com/legal/privacy-policy?lang=en#privacy-... But they clearly say: We may share your information with a parent, subsidiary, or other affiliate of our corporate group. ByteDance in Beijing qualifies.
- fabianhjr 6y ago
  I didn't mean to imply that either ByteDance or a US company would guard the personal data to which they have access.