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ICE Says Foreign Students Can’t Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite

46 points by anmolparashar 6y ago

xenospn 6y ago
Is there a point to this move, besides xenophobia and cruelty?
- edmundsauto 6y ago
  Put pressure on universities to have in person classes, thus making it appear like things are "back to normal" for US based students before election day? The college educated suburban voter is where Trump has been shedding support.
- sukilot 6y ago
  Logic. The visa is for people with a genuine need to be in the USA for education. Obviously online school is no such reason. Regardless of how you feel about immigration, the education visa is not the way to permit non-educational immigration.
- Vrondi 6y ago
  This essentially maintains the existing status quo without updating it for the new realities. It was already true that you couldn't stay in the USA on a student Visa if you were not taking face-to-face classes. They're continuing to enforce that without changing anything for the changed world reality.
- N1H1L 6y ago
  The cruelty is the point.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> ICE Says Foreign Students Can’t Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite [Pandemic] This article title has been truncated in a really silly way.
- humanistbot 6y ago
  The title is also not describing it right: they must leave the US if they want to keep attending a college that is going online-only (or a college that is doing hybrid instruction, but all the classes they need that term are online only).
  - N1H1L 6y ago
    They have to leave within 10 days of a college going online only.
malshe 6y ago
The announcement is available here as a PDF from ICE website: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/bcm2007-01.pdf https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/bcm2007-01.pdf This has put an immense pressure on universities and international students. In particular, due to the very short time to make any changes, this announcement has posed a serious challenge.
fallennode 6y ago
Trying to attend online school from a different time zone is a nightmare. Imagine having to wake up for your finals at 3am. Plus, what are students going to do if school goes online after an outbreak? It's a rough time to be a student.
patz 6y ago
It is a bad enough time for everyone.

46 points by anmolparashar 6y ago

xenospn 6y ago

Is there a point to this move, besides xenophobia and cruelty?

edmundsauto 6y ago
Put pressure on universities to have in person classes, thus making it appear like things are "back to normal" for US based students before election day? The college educated suburban voter is where Trump has been shedding support.
sukilot 6y ago
Logic. The visa is for people with a genuine need to be in the USA for education. Obviously online school is no such reason. Regardless of how you feel about immigration, the education visa is not the way to permit non-educational immigration.
Vrondi 6y ago
This essentially maintains the existing status quo without updating it for the new realities. It was already true that you couldn't stay in the USA on a student Visa if you were not taking face-to-face classes. They're continuing to enforce that without changing anything for the changed world reality.
N1H1L 6y ago
The cruelty is the point.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> ICE Says Foreign Students Can’t Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite [Pandemic] This article title has been truncated in a really silly way.

humanistbot 6y ago
The title is also not describing it right: they must leave the US if they want to keep attending a college that is going online-only (or a college that is doing hybrid instruction, but all the classes they need that term are online only).
- N1H1L 6y ago
  They have to leave within 10 days of a college going online only.

malshe 6y ago

The announcement is available here as a PDF from ICE website: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/bcm2007-01.pdf https://www.ice.gov/doclib/sevis/pdf/bcm2007-01.pdf This has put an immense pressure on universities and international students. In particular, due to the very short time to make any changes, this announcement has posed a serious challenge.

fallennode 6y ago

Trying to attend online school from a different time zone is a nightmare. Imagine having to wake up for your finals at 3am. Plus, what are students going to do if school goes online after an outbreak? It's a rough time to be a student.

patz 6y ago

It is a bad enough time for everyone.