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> That's a very bold claim. Have any studies or polls to back that up? From 1: > In Japan, only 14 percent of households will own a 4K TV in 2019 because most

> That's a very bold claim. Have any studies or polls to back that up? From 1: > In Japan, only 14 percent of households will own a 4K TV in 2019 because most households already have relatively new TVs, IHS said. Let's dissect the reasoning. Most households already have a relatively new TV, thus a low adoption rate. Implying that needing a new TV generally, not the desire to upgrade resolution, is the primary motivating factor in purchasing a TV. In fact, most 4K TVs are already as cheap as the rest of the market. I truly believe that almost everyone does not care about 4K whatsoever. In fact, even if they do 'care' it's not because they know what they're talking about. Most of the enhancements that 4K TVs bring are an artifact of better display technology, rather than increased resolution. See 2. Streaming 4K+ video is a waste of resources with no tangible benefit to anyone other than marketing purposes. Netflix streams '4K' because everyone has a '4K' TV now and they demand it. [1]: https://www.twice.com/research/us-4k-tv-penetration-hit-35-2019-59741 https://www.twice.com/research/us-4k-tv-penetration-hit-35-2... [2]: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-ultra-hd-4k-tvs-are-still-stupid/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-ultra-hd-4k-tvs-are-still-stup...

Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
Your first link includes an extra detail which is important: > In addition, “with the Japanese consumer preference for smaller TV screens, it will be more difficult for 4K TV to expand its household penetration in the country" With a smaller TV screen, yeah, you don't need 4K. But in the USA, larger screens are desirable. And that's seen in the expected 34% 4K adoption rate in the USA your article describes. I still use a 1080p TV, but it's also only 46" and is 10 years old. I'll probably be buying a 4K 70-75" OLED later this year. My computer monitor is 1440p. I could have bought 4K when I upgraded, but I'm primarily a gamer and I wanted 144 hz, and 4K 144 hz monitors didn't exist yet.
bscphil 6y ago
I agree with most of what you're saying, but this is actually wrong. > Streaming 4K+ video is a waste of resources with no tangible benefit to anyone other than marketing purposes. Netflix streams '4K' because everyone has a '4K' TV now and they demand it. It's not inherently wrong, just practically so. The difference is that Netflix (and often other streaming services) max out at a much higher bitrate for their 4k streaming, and are using a better codec (H.265) as well. By comparison, Netflix's bitrate for 1080p is severely limited and so if you compare the two, even watching at the 1080p level of detail, streaming in 4k will often be a vastly superior experience. So it's not inherent (not a result of the resolution), but still, streaming 4k is not pointless at present.

Sohcahtoa82 6y ago

Your first link includes an extra detail which is important: > In addition, “with the Japanese consumer preference for smaller TV screens, it will be more difficult for 4K TV to expand its household penetration in the country" With a smaller TV screen, yeah, you don't need 4K. But in the USA, larger screens are desirable. And that's seen in the expected 34% 4K adoption rate in the USA your article describes. I still use a 1080p TV, but it's also only 46" and is 10 years old. I'll probably be buying a 4K 70-75" OLED later this year. My computer monitor is 1440p. I could have bought 4K when I upgraded, but I'm primarily a gamer and I wanted 144 hz, and 4K 144 hz monitors didn't exist yet.

bscphil 6y ago

I agree with most of what you're saying, but this is actually wrong. > Streaming 4K+ video is a waste of resources with no tangible benefit to anyone other than marketing purposes. Netflix streams '4K' because everyone has a '4K' TV now and they demand it. It's not inherently wrong, just practically so. The difference is that Netflix (and often other streaming services) max out at a much higher bitrate for their 4k streaming, and are using a better codec (H.265) as well. By comparison, Netflix's bitrate for 1080p is severely limited and so if you compare the two, even watching at the 1080p level of detail, streaming in 4k will often be a vastly superior experience. So it's not inherent (not a result of the resolution), but still, streaming 4k is not pointless at present.