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I'm very interested in the idea, but I don't like: "Like Neeva, Startpage sources search results externally—in its case, directly from Google" I've been havin

I'm very interested in the idea, but I don't like: "Like Neeva, Startpage sources search results externally—in its case, directly from Google" I've been having a lot of trouble with Google search results lately. They seem to be getting worse all the time. I'd love to join a new search engine, but if the limit of their search quality is Google, I just can't get that excited. I'd prefer to start using something that is 80% of the quality of Google and getting better, than something that is fixed to Google.

sjtindell 6y ago
To me this isn’t a problem with Google, but with SEO. Gaming the system to get a better ranking is an entire industry now, and that won’t stop no matter which engine is the most popular.
- basch 6y ago
  Google also seems to be preferring new results. SEO is part of it, but SEO shouldnt change the good content google already had indexed. SEO
  - CamperBob2 6y ago
    Honestly, it's about time they tweaked their algorithm to favor newer content in many areas. I'm tired of getting five- to ten-year old pages when searching on contemporary technical topics or looking for a workaround for the latest Firefox weirdness.
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  One solution would be a good, but unpopular search engine. SEO wouldn't optimize for it because the returns wouldn't be there, and I could use it and get good results, because it would be good. I can imagine paying a subscription to use it is one way to have a good and unpopular search engine.
  - asdff 6y ago
    Eventually that too will be subject to eternal September. You can't win, unless you make your own and never share it.
    - 6510 6y ago
      keep the secret!
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  Google benefits from SEO because those most willing to game the system are also running the most ads. They have no incentive to make search work as well as it did in the past.

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I'm very interested in the idea, but I don't like: "Like Neeva, Startpage sources search results externally—in its case, directly from Google" I've been havin

by ALittleLight 6y ago

sjtindell 6y ago
To me this isn’t a problem with Google, but with SEO. Gaming the system to get a better ranking is an entire industry now, and that won’t stop no matter which engine is the most popular.
- basch 6y ago
  Google also seems to be preferring new results. SEO is part of it, but SEO shouldnt change the good content google already had indexed. SEO
  - CamperBob2 6y ago
    Honestly, it's about time they tweaked their algorithm to favor newer content in many areas. I'm tired of getting five- to ten-year old pages when searching on contemporary technical topics or looking for a workaround for the latest Firefox weirdness.
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  One solution would be a good, but unpopular search engine. SEO wouldn't optimize for it because the returns wouldn't be there, and I could use it and get good results, because it would be good. I can imagine paying a subscription to use it is one way to have a good and unpopular search engine.
  - asdff 6y ago
    Eventually that too will be subject to eternal September. You can't win, unless you make your own and never share it.
    - 6510 6y ago
      keep the secret!
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  Google benefits from SEO because those most willing to game the system are also running the most ads. They have no incentive to make search work as well as it did in the past.