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> We're going to end up with a huge amount of debt, a financial crisis, and the most deaths of any industrialized country at the end of this. What industrializ

> We're going to end up with a huge amount of debt, a financial crisis, and the most deaths of any industrialized country at the end of this. What industrialized country has a higher population than US? Do you not get how proportions work or something? EDIT: And if you think this phenomena of central banks buying debt is somehow unique to the USA ... I mean ... the media is actively trying to prevent people from having a balanced picture of the world ... so it is not a surprise ... but yes ... you should try inform yourself of the reality. Almost every industrialized nation and non industrialised nation is doing similar things.

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deleuze 6y ago
Most doesn't just have to refer to absolute quantity, it can also refer to a relative measure. Either way, it's a shit load of dead people, not sure what your point is.
- jaekash 6y ago
  Industrialized countries with more deaths per capita than USA: Belgium (2.1 more) UK (1.6 times more) Spain (1.5 times more) Italy (1.43 times more) Sweden (1.3 times more) France (1.1 times more). Yes it is a shitload of deaths. Lets talk about it being more than every other industrialised nation in proportion when that actually happens.
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ThisIsTheWay 6y ago
Quit being a dick
edanm 6y ago
> What industrialized country has a higher population than US? I mean, the rest of your comment aside, let me just mention the answer to this IIRC: China and India both have larger populations than the US.
- jaekash 6y ago
  Neither India nor China are considered industrialized countries. It could very well be that the person I replied to did not know what the phrase meant though, but it does have a very specific definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country > A developed country, industrialized country (or post-industrial country), more developed country, or more economically developed country (MEDC), is a sovereign state that has a developed economy and advanced technological infrastructure relative to other less industrialized nations.
skuhn 6y ago
The operative words you seem to be missing are "at the end of this", but fine. Lets look at right now, and put aside notions of "industrialized countries". 1. 538,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths worldwide; 132,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths in USA. 24.5% of worldwide deaths in USA. 2. 7.8 billion people worldwide; 328 million people in USA. 4.2% of worldwide population in USA. Does that ratio seem like cause for concern?
- jaekash 6y ago
  > The operative words you seem to be missing are "at the end of this", but fine. Okay, how about I just say no, at the end of this the USA won't have the most deaths per capita of industrialized nations. Amazingly my claim has just as much, if not more, basis than the original claim. Glad we settled it. > Does that ratio seem like cause for concern? Belgium (2.1 more) UK (1.6 times more) Spain (1.5 times more) Italy (1.43 times more) Sweden (1.3 times more) France (1.1 times more) have more deaths per capita than USA. Every death is concerning (I guess some people are not clear on this), but the per capita deaths of the USA is not anomalous. Given the data we have I would say the most likely situation is that developing and least developed countries are either not being exposed to the same levels as industrialized countries or just not as good at tracking and reporting deaths as opposed to just having a lower actual mortality rate. That being said some areas in the USA, like New York, clearly just completely botched their handling of the pandemic what with sending sick old people back into frail care facilities. I hope at the end of this whoever made that policy is brought up on murder charges.
  - radicaldreamer 6y ago
    If you want to talk about per-capita deaths, shouldn't it be controlled for density? The United States is far less dense than Europe.

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deleuze 6y ago

Most doesn't just have to refer to absolute quantity, it can also refer to a relative measure. Either way, it's a shit load of dead people, not sure what your point is.

jaekash 6y ago
Industrialized countries with more deaths per capita than USA: Belgium (2.1 more) UK (1.6 times more) Spain (1.5 times more) Italy (1.43 times more) Sweden (1.3 times more) France (1.1 times more). Yes it is a shitload of deaths. Lets talk about it being more than every other industrialised nation in proportion when that actually happens.
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ThisIsTheWay 6y ago

Quit being a dick

edanm 6y ago

> What industrialized country has a higher population than US? I mean, the rest of your comment aside, let me just mention the answer to this IIRC: China and India both have larger populations than the US.

jaekash 6y ago
Neither India nor China are considered industrialized countries. It could very well be that the person I replied to did not know what the phrase meant though, but it does have a very specific definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country > A developed country, industrialized country (or post-industrial country), more developed country, or more economically developed country (MEDC), is a sovereign state that has a developed economy and advanced technological infrastructure relative to other less industrialized nations.

skuhn 6y ago

The operative words you seem to be missing are "at the end of this", but fine. Lets look at right now, and put aside notions of "industrialized countries". 1. 538,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths worldwide; 132,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths in USA. 24.5% of worldwide deaths in USA. 2. 7.8 billion people worldwide; 328 million people in USA. 4.2% of worldwide population in USA. Does that ratio seem like cause for concern?

jaekash 6y ago
> The operative words you seem to be missing are "at the end of this", but fine. Okay, how about I just say no, at the end of this the USA won't have the most deaths per capita of industrialized nations. Amazingly my claim has just as much, if not more, basis than the original claim. Glad we settled it. > Does that ratio seem like cause for concern? Belgium (2.1 more) UK (1.6 times more) Spain (1.5 times more) Italy (1.43 times more) Sweden (1.3 times more) France (1.1 times more) have more deaths per capita than USA. Every death is concerning (I guess some people are not clear on this), but the per capita deaths of the USA is not anomalous. Given the data we have I would say the most likely situation is that developing and least developed countries are either not being exposed to the same levels as industrialized countries or just not as good at tracking and reporting deaths as opposed to just having a lower actual mortality rate. That being said some areas in the USA, like New York, clearly just completely botched their handling of the pandemic what with sending sick old people back into frail care facilities. I hope at the end of this whoever made that policy is brought up on murder charges.
- radicaldreamer 6y ago
  If you want to talk about per-capita deaths, shouldn't it be controlled for density? The United States is far less dense than Europe.