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Given that Graeber himself very clearly says "a bullshit job is defined as one which the person doing the job believes doesn't have to, or shouldn't, exist", yo
by EliRivers 6y ago
Given that Graeber himself very clearly says "a bullshit job is defined as one which the person doing the job believes doesn't have to, or shouldn't, exist", your assertion that the idea of bullshit jobs is "an egotistical effort to cheaply denigrate others" doesn't seem to make much sense.
- clairity 6y agoit's a critique on the discussions, not necessarily the book/author. i'm saying i expect more than some shallow dismissal of flipping burgers being so obviously bullshit to people who bang on keyboards, which is a dismayingly large proportion of most of these discussions, as well as the shallow solution to UBI all the things to fix it. if it's not obvious what the value of a job is, whether or not it could be solved another way, then you're losing your compassion and empathy for other human beings, their lives, and their livelihoods.
- free_rms 6y agoYou don't seem to understand the premise. Flipping burgers is manifestly not bullshit compared to filing TPS reports. People eat burgers. That's not to say that there's no human value to a TPS report, somewhere down the line, but we're sufficiently divorced from it that it's impossible to tell.
- clairity 6y agonot misunderstanding, that's basically my point as well, but that's not how these discussions typically unfurl, which is why an exhortation to better discussion is even needed.