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Prove it. I spend a significant amount of my time making sure I buy brands that DO NOT fund that hateful family. I have also written to companies I like that ad

Prove it. I spend a significant amount of my time making sure I buy brands that DO NOT fund that hateful family. I have also written to companies I like that advertise of Fox News. (I don't need a hobby, I like using my time to vote with my dollars.)

curiousllama 6y ago
Look at these brands: https://www.kochind.com/companies https://www.kochind.com/companies Guardian might've made your windows (car & home); Invista might've made the nylon in your clothes; Molex makes the liiiiiiitle tiny bits of plastic in the computer you're using. Live pretty much anywhere except the coasts in the US? Koch probably sold the softwood lumber used to build your house. You sure your car doesn't burn gasoline from Flint Hills? Do you ever use paper products? Georgia Pacific (Brawny, Dixie, Angel Soft...). They're so foundational in so many basic industries, they're just unavoidable.
- nappy-doo 6y ago
  I avoid the GP products. I can't change the plastics in my computer. My house is older than dirt, and the windows are so old you can see the glass warping. The lumber's proper sized, not scaled by 0.5inches (eg, rafters are true 2"x8"), but I get your point. It's hard to PROVE what the state is. Let's just say, I try my hardest.
  - curiousllama 6y ago
    You certainly try harder than most! Plus, most of these companies are in B2B commodities industries where purchasing is the margin driver, not sales. So I wouldn't worry too much about whether the Nylon 6,6 in your yoga pants was made in an Invista facility... your purchasing decision just wouldn't matter that much.
ryan93 6y ago
You are infinitely better off competing with them directly instead of useless personal choice.
- nappy-doo 6y ago
  I like my job. I don't want to go into the paper manufacturing business (or oil additives, or fracking chemicals, etc.). Personal choice is what I have here. I am fighting with the tools I have at my disposal. It might make some feel better to say my personal choice is useless. Let's assume that's true. Given that I choose to think that even smallest person can make a difference. I also choose to think that it's cop out to say otherwise.

curiousllama 6y ago

Look at these brands: https://www.kochind.com/companies https://www.kochind.com/companies Guardian might've made your windows (car & home); Invista might've made the nylon in your clothes; Molex makes the liiiiiiitle tiny bits of plastic in the computer you're using. Live pretty much anywhere except the coasts in the US? Koch probably sold the softwood lumber used to build your house. You sure your car doesn't burn gasoline from Flint Hills? Do you ever use paper products? Georgia Pacific (Brawny, Dixie, Angel Soft...). They're so foundational in so many basic industries, they're just unavoidable.

nappy-doo 6y ago
I avoid the GP products. I can't change the plastics in my computer. My house is older than dirt, and the windows are so old you can see the glass warping. The lumber's proper sized, not scaled by 0.5inches (eg, rafters are true 2"x8"), but I get your point. It's hard to PROVE what the state is. Let's just say, I try my hardest.
- curiousllama 6y ago
  You certainly try harder than most! Plus, most of these companies are in B2B commodities industries where purchasing is the margin driver, not sales. So I wouldn't worry too much about whether the Nylon 6,6 in your yoga pants was made in an Invista facility... your purchasing decision just wouldn't matter that much.

ryan93 6y ago

You are infinitely better off competing with them directly instead of useless personal choice.

nappy-doo 6y ago
I like my job. I don't want to go into the paper manufacturing business (or oil additives, or fracking chemicals, etc.). Personal choice is what I have here. I am fighting with the tools I have at my disposal. It might make some feel better to say my personal choice is useless. Let's assume that's true. Given that I choose to think that even smallest person can make a difference. I also choose to think that it's cop out to say otherwise.