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Yup, and the reality becomes winners take all. Really starts to suck for us that ended up going to a ~200 ranked institution because we couldn’t get in to the p
by akhilcacharya 6y ago
Yup, and the reality becomes winners take all. Really starts to suck for us that ended up going to a ~200 ranked institution because we couldn’t get in to the prestigious ones (which, in all honesty, is much harder than finding a way to pay for an expensive school).
- blaser-waffle 6y agoSounds like an r/K selection thing. If you can't afford an Ivy and aren't elegable for assistance, then it may be more worthwhile to do community college and laterally-transfer into a different school. I knew a dude who did community college in Northern VA (NVCC) and transferred to Cornell. Shaved off a lot of costs, got a scholarship, and walked out with an Ivy League diplo. All of those hills were good for his leg strength, too.
- akhilcacharya 6y agoTransferring into Ivies is nearly universally more difficult than getting in normally, the only exception is Cornell. Unfortunately, I'm still paying for being mediocre in my high school years!
- MiroF 6y agoYeahhh outside of Cornell you're not going to transfer into an Ivy from a CC.
- irrational 6y agoDoesn’t only apply to ivy leagues. I have a coworker than attended cc for 3 years and then transferred to a super elite/expensive private school in Oregon for his final year.
- barry-cotter 6y agoOk, I didn’t think there were any elite schools on the West Cost apart from Stanford and after googling “most prestigious colleges Oregon” the only one I’ve heard of before is Reed, which USNWR ranks #68 among National Liberal Arts Colleges. This isn’t a knock on the students or the quality of education in Oregon or on the West Coast generally, just a statement of social reality. If you go by Lauren Rivera’s research on hiring practices of elite professional service firms the super elite are HYPS, with the remaining members of the Ivy League, Northwestern, MIT, Cal Tech and some others sometimes being included depending on who was hiring. No one’s transferring to any of those schools after three years at a community college. I doubt that’s ever happened at Reed.
- panda888888 6y agoReed is #2 in the country for the number of graduates who go on to earn PhDs. It's a more prestigious school than their USNWR ranking would indicate. Reed refuses to fill out the USNWR yearly survey, and is ranked lower because of it. And Steve Jobs went there, but he dropped out.
- barry-cotter 6y agoCal Tech must be #1, yes? Thanks for explaining the disjunction between their reputation and rank.
- gbronner 6y agoIt would be better to norm "getting a PhD" by undergrad department. Ivy league stem graduates often go straight to work because their salaries are basically as high as a phd
- cozzyd 6y agoAnyone getting a PhD to increase their salary is probably making a big mistake.
- rodw 6y agoReed is among the top tier of liberal arts colleges. Liberal arts college rankings aren't comparable to large university rankings. There are thousands of them, and many have specialized niches. You need to adjust your scale when looking at colleges versus universities, and even then USNWR rankings are a crude metric if you are interested in a specific program. Also, the idea that "elite professional service firms" and Ivy/Ivy-tier Universities have similar selection criteria doesn't seem at all surprising to me. But I don't think that's a model that's appropriate or useful for most HN readers.
- huy-nguyen 6y agoThere are other very good but smaller schools on the west coast like Pomona, Harvey Mudd, Reed etc.
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