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That will work for some people but not everyone. At my current job I can't monetize work I do outside the company without approval. That means I can't go throug

That will work for some people but not everyone. At my current job I can't monetize work I do outside the company without approval. That means I can't go through you application process unless I quit first. Even if I was allowed to do this I don't think I'd want to. The time commitment of an extra project on top of my normal workload is not something I want.

novok 6y ago
Not to mention people on work visas who cannot legally do that either.
wolco 6y ago
No that means once you start receiving money you have to disclose. The application process is fine.
nogabebop23 6y ago
what if they "give" you a gift card after you submit? I've had that before, where the gitft card was essentially paypal credit. Not wanting to do an extra project is the second part of this problem - the best people already have jobs and aren't looking, so they're not going to spend all their free time working on high-effort job applications.
- fredophile 6y ago
  I can't speak for my employer but the IRS certainly views gift cards and similar cash equivalent payments to be taxable income.
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  - edoceo 6y ago
    Correct. And if the IRS calls it income then, odds are, your current employer would consider it the same
edoceo 6y ago
All hiring process have the some-not-all problem. This process is just a different set for "some". Remember though it's a some-some problem on both sides too. I think it's sometimes called the "secretary problem".
nawgszy 6y ago
Well, then you can just work out a deal to not monetize it. Your objection is of course valid - extra workload on top of a normal job probably has its limits. But the fact one is willing to pay those who are willing to be paid for such an interview doesn't suddenly make it a strict requirement ha. I must say though, I also view the interview standard I've faced - quick phone screen, 1h tech screen, 4-6h onsite (probably online now) - as adding up to a lot of time very quickly, especially as the "onsite" time is of course awkward when it means you take PTO to go to an interview. In this sense, I'd probably rather have an ~8-12h coding task than a 4-6h onsite. Maybe even a higher factor
- scarface74 6y ago
  It’s one day for the tech screen and one day for the on-site. Of course it’s more of you have to travel.
dredmorbius 6y ago
An employment process which prohibits common methods of job searching might well be found anticompetitive and hence unenforceable. Or straight-up illegal.
flak48 6y ago
What if they donated to a charity of your choice instead of paying you.

novok 6y ago

Not to mention people on work visas who cannot legally do that either.

wolco 6y ago

No that means once you start receiving money you have to disclose. The application process is fine.

nogabebop23 6y ago

what if they "give" you a gift card after you submit? I've had that before, where the gitft card was essentially paypal credit. Not wanting to do an extra project is the second part of this problem - the best people already have jobs and aren't looking, so they're not going to spend all their free time working on high-effort job applications.

fredophile 6y ago
I can't speak for my employer but the IRS certainly views gift cards and similar cash equivalent payments to be taxable income.
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- edoceo 6y ago
  Correct. And if the IRS calls it income then, odds are, your current employer would consider it the same

edoceo 6y ago

All hiring process have the some-not-all problem. This process is just a different set for "some". Remember though it's a some-some problem on both sides too. I think it's sometimes called the "secretary problem".

nawgszy 6y ago

Well, then you can just work out a deal to not monetize it. Your objection is of course valid - extra workload on top of a normal job probably has its limits. But the fact one is willing to pay those who are willing to be paid for such an interview doesn't suddenly make it a strict requirement ha. I must say though, I also view the interview standard I've faced - quick phone screen, 1h tech screen, 4-6h onsite (probably online now) - as adding up to a lot of time very quickly, especially as the "onsite" time is of course awkward when it means you take PTO to go to an interview. In this sense, I'd probably rather have an ~8-12h coding task than a 4-6h onsite. Maybe even a higher factor

scarface74 6y ago
It’s one day for the tech screen and one day for the on-site. Of course it’s more of you have to travel.

dredmorbius 6y ago

An employment process which prohibits common methods of job searching might well be found anticompetitive and hence unenforceable. Or straight-up illegal.

flak48 6y ago

What if they donated to a charity of your choice instead of paying you.