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The level of detail, thought, and painstaking effort behind creating this model is incredible. I imagine it was a fun or cathartic hobby for this person, but ma

by eloff 6y ago

The level of detail, thought, and painstaking effort behind creating this model is incredible. I imagine it was a fun or cathartic hobby for this person, but man when you think of what else they could have accomplished with a similar level of effort. They could be in a substantially better place financially, which probably would have been more valuable to them personally. If not, then by all means it is time well spent. Some people would counter that money is not everything, which I mostly agree with. But it can be traded for time, in as much as you are currently trading time for money in a hateful device called a job. And everyone knows that time is both valuable and limited. That's my opinion, I can't justify time consuming hobbies like this one. Still, it's a beautiful work of art and the creator should be justifiably proud of it.

dylan604 6y ago
Wow. What a selfish perspective. It's art. It made this guy happy. It makes me happy knowing it exists and the complete write up about it. How much is that worth. I can tell you my happiness is worth more than zero. Can't speak for the artist, but willing to guess it is more than zero as well. Who are you state where this individual's time is better spent?
- eloff 6y ago
  I have no objection to that. But it's this really what he would most want to do with his free time, or just something he did to pass the time? I would rather spend time with friends and family, play games, read books, travel, etc. I'm drawing attention to the opportunity cost inherit when you choose any one thing to spend your time on - you can't spend it on anything else, so make it something truly important to you. If that happens to be building models, so much the merrier.
  - dylan604 6y ago
    >I would rather spend time with friends and family, play games, read books, travel, etc. That's you. Lots of people are perfectly fine without the need for family/friends 24/7. The site clearly stated he had been working on the project since 2008, so they could spend a few weekends here & there on the project and still have plenty of time left for doing whatever else makes you (specific you not the royal one) approve of his endeavors. I might suggest you might have more free time yourself if you just accept things not in your control rather than worrying about how someone else does things you might choose to do differently. I'm suspecting that this is not the only example. You haven't mentioned your hobbies. Let's see if we approve of how you spend your time.
  - switchbak 6y ago
    Do you have this same criticism of the people that peruse this site? Or those watching Netflix? But reading books is ok - see how arbitrary that is? We don't all share the same values, and it's pretty arrogant of you to suggest that yours are universal.
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throwaway43234 6y ago
If I spent my weekends flipping burgers instead of kayaking/backpacking/etc, I'd have more money too. But why on earth would I want to do that? This person clearly has some source of income sufficient to let them "waste" hundreds of hours, I don't think they need to be in a rush to dig up more money.
GekkePrutser 6y ago
It is actually partially his work (though probably it evolved as such later), see the Singapore Airlines ad campaign from his site: https://www.lucaiaconistewart.com/singapore-airlines https://www.lucaiaconistewart.com/singapore-airlines But yeah I agree, this kind of tedious repetitive work is nothing for me either. I need to do hobbies I can learn from. While this would have been incredibly educational (about aircraft design, construction, project management etc), it also contains a lot of highly repetitive work like building hundreds of the same seats. No thanks. But anyway I wanted to say that hobbies aren't aways perpendicular to jobs or making money. I've used many things I've learned from hobbies in my job, and in fact my job is pretty much my hobby. And even with unrelated hobbies you can sometimes pull them into your work (as he did here). IMO this is the ideal way to go, yet for a lot of people unfortunately not achievable in this society :( But kudos to him!! Wow, it looks amazing.
kayodelycaon 6y ago
Let people have their fun. Not everything in life needs to be optimized to death. My hobbies are completely unrelated to my job but they make me a much fuller and happier person. As a side-effect, everything else is improved. If you're worried about this person's impact, think about how many people saw this and were impressed and possibly inspired? I was. We have a much different effect on the world than we realize. The things we think are important may not be and the kind word or small bit of advice we gave without a second thought may have changed someone else's life. The human experience is too complex to be measured in spreadsheets.
- eloff 6y ago
  I disagree, what if not time is worth optimizing? It's the only thing you can't get more of. edit getting down voted by the immortal apparently...
  - jdbernard 6y ago
    But to what end and for who's benefit? What is the point of the optimization of your time?
    - eloff 6y ago
      For your own benefit mostly. If you want to spend some time for the benefit of society at large, so much the better. But at least you should care about your own benefit.
      - jdbernard 6y ago
        It just makes me think of the story of the fisherman: https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2015/09/04/the-fisherman-and-the-businessman/ https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2015/09/04/the-fisherman-and-the... Your replies seem to indicate that he should spend his time doing "productive" things instead; that would be more "optimal". I guess I'm tired of this race-to-the-bottom mentality where we spend so much time "optimizing" our productivity that we optimize the joy out of life. Productivity is a good thing, but I'm not convinced it is the greatest good.
paracyst 6y ago
On today's episode of "Stop Liking Things That I Don't Like"
- eloff 6y ago
  Not at all, just puzzled why people do things like this that don't seem to better their situation. Unless he's doing exactly what he would really want to do with his free time, in which case it is optimal.
  - jquast 6y ago
    People said the same thing for those who invented email, the World Wide Web, tcp/ip, and other technologies. Nobody saw the value in it at the time of doing it. That’s the thing about having true creative vision, to also have the conviction to do those things that nobody else sees the value of doing.
  - jimktrains2 6y ago
    I mean, why does anyone have any hobbies? Why do people build model layouts, or models at all? Why read/write for fun? Why keep small gardens? Why do photograhy? Why do people still run their own dark rooms? Why do people write software in their spare time? Why do people cook?
    - indemnity 6y ago
      This strain of thinking that every spare minute must be accounted for and be in the service of improving one’s circumstances is something all too common in tech. We’re not ants.
      - jimktrains2 6y ago
        It's also a very narrow idea of what someone's "circumstances" are. Physical and mental well-being are part of your circumstances as well, and hobbies often cater to one or both of those.
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DavidVoid 6y ago
> Some people would counter that money is not everything, which I mostly agree with. But it can be traded for time Yes, it can be traded for time to spend on things you enjoy doing -- such as your hobbies.
thehappypm 6y ago
Do you have any hobbies at all?
andalusian_ipa 6y ago
I'm sorry you got downvoted, I agree with you. If only this serious amount of effort was directed towards something meaningful the world would be much greater.
- bitexploder 6y ago
  This is so backwards. Many people seem to fill their time with social media and other pointless activities. These types of hobbies and projects are a missing, and critical, component to staying fulfilled and happy while avoiding many of the traps of modern technology. If a person gets fulfillment out of it no one here should be judging them. It is no different than reading for enjoyment.
ponker 6y ago
That’s the kind of thinking that has achieved... nothing of importance.

by eloff 6y ago

dylan604 6y ago

Wow. What a selfish perspective. It's art. It made this guy happy. It makes me happy knowing it exists and the complete write up about it. How much is that worth. I can tell you my happiness is worth more than zero. Can't speak for the artist, but willing to guess it is more than zero as well. Who are you state where this individual's time is better spent?

eloff 6y ago
I have no objection to that. But it's this really what he would most want to do with his free time, or just something he did to pass the time? I would rather spend time with friends and family, play games, read books, travel, etc. I'm drawing attention to the opportunity cost inherit when you choose any one thing to spend your time on - you can't spend it on anything else, so make it something truly important to you. If that happens to be building models, so much the merrier.
- dylan604 6y ago
  >I would rather spend time with friends and family, play games, read books, travel, etc. That's you. Lots of people are perfectly fine without the need for family/friends 24/7. The site clearly stated he had been working on the project since 2008, so they could spend a few weekends here & there on the project and still have plenty of time left for doing whatever else makes you (specific you not the royal one) approve of his endeavors. I might suggest you might have more free time yourself if you just accept things not in your control rather than worrying about how someone else does things you might choose to do differently. I'm suspecting that this is not the only example. You haven't mentioned your hobbies. Let's see if we approve of how you spend your time.
- switchbak 6y ago
  Do you have this same criticism of the people that peruse this site? Or those watching Netflix? But reading books is ok - see how arbitrary that is? We don't all share the same values, and it's pretty arrogant of you to suggest that yours are universal.
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throwaway43234 6y ago

If I spent my weekends flipping burgers instead of kayaking/backpacking/etc, I'd have more money too. But why on earth would I want to do that? This person clearly has some source of income sufficient to let them "waste" hundreds of hours, I don't think they need to be in a rush to dig up more money.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

It is actually partially his work (though probably it evolved as such later), see the Singapore Airlines ad campaign from his site: https://www.lucaiaconistewart.com/singapore-airlines https://www.lucaiaconistewart.com/singapore-airlines But yeah I agree, this kind of tedious repetitive work is nothing for me either. I need to do hobbies I can learn from. While this would have been incredibly educational (about aircraft design, construction, project management etc), it also contains a lot of highly repetitive work like building hundreds of the same seats. No thanks. But anyway I wanted to say that hobbies aren't aways perpendicular to jobs or making money. I've used many things I've learned from hobbies in my job, and in fact my job is pretty much my hobby. And even with unrelated hobbies you can sometimes pull them into your work (as he did here). IMO this is the ideal way to go, yet for a lot of people unfortunately not achievable in this society :( But kudos to him!! Wow, it looks amazing.

kayodelycaon 6y ago

Let people have their fun. Not everything in life needs to be optimized to death. My hobbies are completely unrelated to my job but they make me a much fuller and happier person. As a side-effect, everything else is improved. If you're worried about this person's impact, think about how many people saw this and were impressed and possibly inspired? I was. We have a much different effect on the world than we realize. The things we think are important may not be and the kind word or small bit of advice we gave without a second thought may have changed someone else's life. The human experience is too complex to be measured in spreadsheets.

eloff 6y ago
I disagree, what if not time is worth optimizing? It's the only thing you can't get more of. edit getting down voted by the immortal apparently...
- jdbernard 6y ago
  But to what end and for who's benefit? What is the point of the optimization of your time?
  - eloff 6y ago
    For your own benefit mostly. If you want to spend some time for the benefit of society at large, so much the better. But at least you should care about your own benefit.
    - jdbernard 6y ago
      It just makes me think of the story of the fisherman: https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2015/09/04/the-fisherman-and-the-businessman/ https://paulocoelhoblog.com/2015/09/04/the-fisherman-and-the... Your replies seem to indicate that he should spend his time doing "productive" things instead; that would be more "optimal". I guess I'm tired of this race-to-the-bottom mentality where we spend so much time "optimizing" our productivity that we optimize the joy out of life. Productivity is a good thing, but I'm not convinced it is the greatest good.

paracyst 6y ago

On today's episode of "Stop Liking Things That I Don't Like"

eloff 6y ago
Not at all, just puzzled why people do things like this that don't seem to better their situation. Unless he's doing exactly what he would really want to do with his free time, in which case it is optimal.
- jquast 6y ago
  People said the same thing for those who invented email, the World Wide Web, tcp/ip, and other technologies. Nobody saw the value in it at the time of doing it. That’s the thing about having true creative vision, to also have the conviction to do those things that nobody else sees the value of doing.
- jimktrains2 6y ago
  I mean, why does anyone have any hobbies? Why do people build model layouts, or models at all? Why read/write for fun? Why keep small gardens? Why do photograhy? Why do people still run their own dark rooms? Why do people write software in their spare time? Why do people cook?
  - indemnity 6y ago
    This strain of thinking that every spare minute must be accounted for and be in the service of improving one’s circumstances is something all too common in tech. We’re not ants.
    - jimktrains2 6y ago
      It's also a very narrow idea of what someone's "circumstances" are. Physical and mental well-being are part of your circumstances as well, and hobbies often cater to one or both of those.
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DavidVoid 6y ago

> Some people would counter that money is not everything, which I mostly agree with. But it can be traded for time Yes, it can be traded for time to spend on things you enjoy doing -- such as your hobbies.

thehappypm 6y ago

Do you have any hobbies at all?

andalusian_ipa 6y ago

I'm sorry you got downvoted, I agree with you. If only this serious amount of effort was directed towards something meaningful the world would be much greater.

bitexploder 6y ago
This is so backwards. Many people seem to fill their time with social media and other pointless activities. These types of hobbies and projects are a missing, and critical, component to staying fulfilled and happy while avoiding many of the traps of modern technology. If a person gets fulfillment out of it no one here should be judging them. It is no different than reading for enjoyment.

ponker 6y ago

That’s the kind of thinking that has achieved... nothing of importance.