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> On Wednesday night, the topic of conversation was Lorenz herself, who had been listening earlier in the conversation but left partway through. After she left,
by ciarannolan 6y ago
> On Wednesday night, the topic of conversation was Lorenz herself, who had been listening earlier in the conversation but left partway through. After she left, the participants began discussing whether Lorenz was playing "the woman card" when speaking out about her harassment following a Twitter altercation with Srinivasan.
> "You can't fucking hit somebody, attack them and just say, 'Hey, I have ovaries and therefore, you can't fight back,'" Felicia Horowitz, founder of the Horowitz Family Foundation and wife of Andreessen Horowitz cofounder Ben Horowitz, said.
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> "Is Taylor afraid of a brown man on the street? Then she shouldn't be afraid of a brown man in Clubhouse," Srinivasan said. "I have literally done nothing other than one previous tweet. Number one, right? So the whole, you know, talking about tweeting as you know, harassment—completely illegitimate, completely wrong, completely fabricated and just false."
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> "When it comes to our industry, there’s a really, really toxic dynamic that exists right now," Nait Jones, an Andreessen Horowitz VC, said on the call while speaking about recent reports about abuse in the tech industry. "Because those stories were so popular and drove so much traffic, they also created a market for more of those stories. They created a pressure on many reporters to find the next one of those stories inside of a fast growing tech company because those stories play very well on Twitter, especially around protecting vulnerable people."
1. The lack of self awareness is incredible.
2. What happened to us? Were people always this nasty and identitarian?
- tossmeout 6y agoI fail to see how any of the quotes you provided are nasty or lack self-awareness.
- ianmobbs 6y agoCan you read?
- renewiltord 6y agoThere is some degree of humour to this response in a thread about meanness and lack of self-awareness.
- bluntfang 6y ago(capital M, T) Me Too
- loopz 6y ago1. Yes 2. Yes Answers to both your questions requires self-introspection and experience with diversity of people from all levels, so will go wooosh over most people's heads, or they will bin it as "sort of PC". We're being given a mirror that creates what we see in it. Yes, this effectively perpetuates crisis.
- kanox 6y ago> The lack of self awareness is incredible. I mostly agree that journalism is an overwhelmingly toxic profession.
- ryanSrich 6y ago1.) In all fairness, those are two different people making those statements. It lacks a certain self-awareness I agree, but it's not to the same degree if it had been the same person. 2.) I genuinely believe it's due to social media. Twitter specifically is very divisive and that's where most journalists gather. The feedback loops are too rewarding. You call out a "tech bro" for saying something racist and you're rewarded with thousands of likes and retweets. It drives people to seek that out at all costs.
- s1artibartfast 6y agoDo you mean the lack of self awareness on the part of Vice? I thought the third quote could have been something out of The Onion. Breaking news! VCs disparage outrage driven click bait. Click to read more...
- rexreed 6y agoIn Silicon Valley, this is how it's always been. Just hidden. It's like this in the finance industry as a whole as well.