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storing in memory would only provide browsing data for the current session, permanent storage of history is not possible without writing to disk

boomboomsubban 6y ago
That would provide fairly strong evidence that it was actually being deleted.
- 867-5309 6y ago
  if what you are referring to were possible
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    It's not really hard, you just want a system that let's you save your history through a reboot.
    - 867-5309 6y ago
      even if the browser's storage engine was part of a RAMdisk for each session, such an area would still have to reside in hard disk storage to survive a reboot
      - boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Needing to survive a reboot isn't necessary. This system would let you know that nothing is being saved. It's not perfect, but it does that thing very well.
        867-5309 6y ago
        it is necessary in relation to the original topic of browser history
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by... Storing the history in memory also solves this half of this problem, and surviving a reboot is not necessary to ensure and audit privacy. edit I'll stop. I can understand the flaws in this setup, I don't understand why you think it isn't possible/wouldn't solve the problem.
        867-5309 6y ago
        you cannot store the history in memory and survive a reboot, unless you write the memory to disk, then read into memory from disk on boot, but even then the history is being stored on disk and so is recoverable. surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. I don't know what it is you think I don't think is possible
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. What actual evidence do you have that incognito mode is wiping the history at session end?
        867-5309 6y ago
        I did not say that, I said it doesn't store history
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        It stores history though, go log into any site in incognito mode. It has the same problem your original post highlights, and is an example of a situation where your history not surviving a reboot would not be an issue.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

That would provide fairly strong evidence that it was actually being deleted.

867-5309 6y ago
if what you are referring to were possible
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  It's not really hard, you just want a system that let's you save your history through a reboot.
  - 867-5309 6y ago
    even if the browser's storage engine was part of a RAMdisk for each session, such an area would still have to reside in hard disk storage to survive a reboot
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      Needing to survive a reboot isn't necessary. This system would let you know that nothing is being saved. It's not perfect, but it does that thing very well.
      - 867-5309 6y ago
        it is necessary in relation to the original topic of browser history
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >seems like nowadays the only way to ensure and audit personal privacy is by... Storing the history in memory also solves this half of this problem, and surviving a reboot is not necessary to ensure and audit privacy. edit I'll stop. I can understand the flaws in this setup, I don't understand why you think it isn't possible/wouldn't solve the problem.
        867-5309 6y ago
        you cannot store the history in memory and survive a reboot, unless you write the memory to disk, then read into memory from disk on boot, but even then the history is being stored on disk and so is recoverable. surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. I don't know what it is you think I don't think is possible
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >surviving a reboot is necessary since the point of storing history is to make it accessible later, otherwise you would use incog/private mode, or stronger. What actual evidence do you have that incognito mode is wiping the history at session end?
        867-5309 6y ago
        I did not say that, I said it doesn't store history
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        It stores history though, go log into any site in incognito mode. It has the same problem your original post highlights, and is an example of a situation where your history not surviving a reboot would not be an issue.