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Ya I find the outright hatred for Brave on HN a bit bizarre. The more sustainable alternatives we have to Google Chrome hegemony the better IMHO. I say this as

Ya I find the outright hatred for Brave on HN a bit bizarre. The more sustainable alternatives we have to Google Chrome hegemony the better IMHO. I say this as both a FF and Brave user.

afiori 6y ago
I know nothing about pro and cons of Brave, but many people that criticize Chrome hegemony often see Brave as inconsequential. It has zero leverage on the evolution of web standards as they will never be able to hard-fork the engine. In particular it does close to nothing to solve the problem of chrome-only websites. It is one of the reason the demise of edgeHTML/chakra was a bittersweet news for many (in this case Microsoft could have the resources, in extreme cases, to hard-fork blink/V8).
admax88q 6y ago
I find HN has a bias against anything that hurts advertising and user tracking revenue. AMP and Brave seem to get a disproportionate amount of attention.
blocked_again 6y ago
You do know Brave is built on top of Chromium which is funded by Google right? I won't call a browser that relies so much on Google as a sustainable alternative to Chrome.
- modzu 6y ago
  same can be said for Firefox though (+300 million a year comes from google): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing
  - pixelatedindex 6y ago
    The browser rendering engine for Firefox (Gecko) is independent from Chromium, and as such isn't really reliant on Google. Mozilla's reliance on Google is solely for displaying Google as the default search engine.
    - modzu 6y ago
      sure the engine is not descended from google code but if mozilla didnt have google's funding they would essentially go bankrupt and consequently ff would go byebye. id call that dependence.
- anonymousDan 6y ago
  Yes but they are at least trying to explore an alternative business model that doesn't fundamentally rely on hoovering up every bit of data there is to know about you without you even being aware most of the time (scepticism of cryotocurrencies aside).

Ya I find the outright hatred for Brave on HN a bit bizarre. The more sustainable alternatives we have to Google Chrome hegemony the better IMHO. I say this as both a FF and Brave user.

afiori 6y ago

I know nothing about pro and cons of Brave, but many people that criticize Chrome hegemony often see Brave as inconsequential. It has zero leverage on the evolution of web standards as they will never be able to hard-fork the engine. In particular it does close to nothing to solve the problem of chrome-only websites. It is one of the reason the demise of edgeHTML/chakra was a bittersweet news for many (in this case Microsoft could have the resources, in extreme cases, to hard-fork blink/V8).

admax88q 6y ago

I find HN has a bias against anything that hurts advertising and user tracking revenue. AMP and Brave seem to get a disproportionate amount of attention.

blocked_again 6y ago

You do know Brave is built on top of Chromium which is funded by Google right? I won't call a browser that relies so much on Google as a sustainable alternative to Chrome.

modzu 6y ago
same can be said for Firefox though (+300 million a year comes from google): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing
- pixelatedindex 6y ago
  The browser rendering engine for Firefox (Gecko) is independent from Chromium, and as such isn't really reliant on Google. Mozilla's reliance on Google is solely for displaying Google as the default search engine.
  - modzu 6y ago
    sure the engine is not descended from google code but if mozilla didnt have google's funding they would essentially go bankrupt and consequently ff would go byebye. id call that dependence.
anonymousDan 6y ago
Yes but they are at least trying to explore an alternative business model that doesn't fundamentally rely on hoovering up every bit of data there is to know about you without you even being aware most of the time (scepticism of cryotocurrencies aside).