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OTOH, isn't it pretty customary for any large office (let's say 1k+) to have a cafeteria, with presumably most employees eating there? Some of these will not w

OTOH, isn't it pretty customary for any large office (let's say 1k+) to have a cafeteria, with presumably most employees eating there? Some of these will not want to cook lunch in the middle of work, and at least order takeout instead.

fzzzy 6y ago
Yes, this is quite likely, but this is a titanic shift in the real estate market. Previously, you wanted a flashy storefront to attract customers so you put your kitchen in a fancy area. Now, you just need a kitchen on a back alley where delivery drivers can easily pull in to pick up their orders. I actually think it might cause a more efficient use of space overall. Lots of strip malls and even regular malls around the country are going to be converted into housing. If almost everybody does almost everything through delivery, there's no need to spend the money on prime real estate and extensive signage, which is very expensive.
- ghaff 6y ago
  >Lots of strip malls and even regular malls around the country are going to be converted into housing Unlikely. Most "dead malls" are in suburban and rural locations, often depressed. Maybe there will be some housing development in the acreage but they're mostly in areas where land is relatively plentiful and cheap. Dying malls aren't going to open up prime real estate because retail in prime real estate is mostly still doing pretty well.
bpicolo 6y ago
> with presumably most employees eating there I think this is a pretty big/new tech specific thing, and there are still exemptions. Of the large non-tech companies in NYC, I know a few banks have cafeterias, but the food is both not free and not good
- claudeganon 6y ago
  In Japan, it’s far more common, even for much smaller companies. There’s a great Japanese TV show that does mini documentaries on these places (and others where workers eat) called, “Sara Meshi” (サラメシ) https://www.nhk.jp/p/salameshi/ts/PVPP6PZNLG/ https://www.nhk.jp/p/salameshi/ts/PVPP6PZNLG/
- tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
  The cafes being free and good is probably a big tech thing, but cafeterias (paid, and... well, cafeteria-grade) certainly aren't uncommon in Germany. If your company doesn't have one, chances are they have a deal with another company in the same building/complex that does.
ghaff 6y ago
Making a sandwich or soup for lunch is not a big deal. And probably the vast majority of urban offices do not have cafeterias and people go out to eat (if they didn't bring something from home).
peruvian 6y ago
It's not as common as you might think nor is it always free or affordable. In NYC, the Sweetgreen/Dig Inn/etc. type places in areas with offices are packed from 12pm to 3pm every weekday. It's a huge market for them.

fzzzy 6y ago

Yes, this is quite likely, but this is a titanic shift in the real estate market. Previously, you wanted a flashy storefront to attract customers so you put your kitchen in a fancy area. Now, you just need a kitchen on a back alley where delivery drivers can easily pull in to pick up their orders. I actually think it might cause a more efficient use of space overall. Lots of strip malls and even regular malls around the country are going to be converted into housing. If almost everybody does almost everything through delivery, there's no need to spend the money on prime real estate and extensive signage, which is very expensive.

ghaff 6y ago
>Lots of strip malls and even regular malls around the country are going to be converted into housing Unlikely. Most "dead malls" are in suburban and rural locations, often depressed. Maybe there will be some housing development in the acreage but they're mostly in areas where land is relatively plentiful and cheap. Dying malls aren't going to open up prime real estate because retail in prime real estate is mostly still doing pretty well.

bpicolo 6y ago

> with presumably most employees eating there I think this is a pretty big/new tech specific thing, and there are still exemptions. Of the large non-tech companies in NYC, I know a few banks have cafeterias, but the food is both not free and not good

claudeganon 6y ago
In Japan, it’s far more common, even for much smaller companies. There’s a great Japanese TV show that does mini documentaries on these places (and others where workers eat) called, “Sara Meshi” (サラメシ) https://www.nhk.jp/p/salameshi/ts/PVPP6PZNLG/ https://www.nhk.jp/p/salameshi/ts/PVPP6PZNLG/
tgsovlerkhgsel 6y ago
The cafes being free and good is probably a big tech thing, but cafeterias (paid, and... well, cafeteria-grade) certainly aren't uncommon in Germany. If your company doesn't have one, chances are they have a deal with another company in the same building/complex that does.

ghaff 6y ago

Making a sandwich or soup for lunch is not a big deal. And probably the vast majority of urban offices do not have cafeterias and people go out to eat (if they didn't bring something from home).

peruvian 6y ago

It's not as common as you might think nor is it always free or affordable. In NYC, the Sweetgreen/Dig Inn/etc. type places in areas with offices are packed from 12pm to 3pm every weekday. It's a huge market for them.