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To describe healthcare as a human right misunderstands what a right is. You don't have a right to a doctor's time. You don't have a right to a nurse's time. Wha
by paul_f 6y ago
To describe healthcare as a human right misunderstands what a right is. You don't have a right to a doctor's time. You don't have a right to a nurse's time. What you want is a free healthcare plan, calling it a right makes it unworkable.
- thebigspacefuck 6y agoCouldn’t you say same thing about right to lawyer or a trial?
- missedthecue 6y agoThat's a legal right, not a human right. A human right is something you already have, it just cannot be restricted by someone else. For example, free speech is a human right. You will always have it innately unless a third party deliberately infringes on that right. If they do so, they are violating your basic human rights.
- qalmakka 6y agoFollowing your reasoning having a dwelling, schooling, food or water access are not human rights because they're not innately part of a human being. I understand why you are arguing for a literal application of the term, but I think that doing so fails to capture the intent behind it, that is, that those things might well not be parts of a human being, but they are still an inseverable part of being human. There are some human needs that inherently depend on resources whose access should be guaranteed to every human being, preferably by the state itself, and I'm deeply convinced that failing to do so is intrinsically a failure at being human. History has shown multiple times that a society that forgets those who are in need is a society where peace is just impossible, plagued by unrest and disparity.
- qalmakka 6y agoFollowing this reasoning, justice also should not be a right either, because the same applies (I don't have a right to a police officer's time, I don't have a right to a judge's time, and so on). Obviously everyone should be paid, and everyone deserves to be rewarded for the job they do, it was not what I meant. I think everyone should have the right to access the health care they need without fearing for their financial security or their future. I think it is not unreasonable to call this a basic human right.
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