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It's the classical "I feel this way so everybody should feel this way". People have been seeking pleasure since they were living in a cave. Boredom thing also
by The_Colonel 6y ago
It's the classical "I feel this way so everybody should feel this way".
People have been seeking pleasure since they were living in a cave.
Boredom thing also sounds completely baseless. I still remember when I was bored as a child - it had nothing to do with anxiety, frustration or anything like that (I didn't have any). Children (and then adults) simply have drive to do something interesting/enjoyable (for quite clear evolutionary reasons). I could stay for a couple of hours just relaxing in a forest, but only because I'm not so used to that. If I had to do that every day then I would get bored.
There are people who are trying to "distract away" themselves from their problems, but that's far from general boredom.
- smart_jackal 6y agoThe caveman pleasures were limited to the culinary (having food) and the carnal (having sex). But today's human has surpassed any and every definition of greed for pleasure. Capitalists having billions in their banks and shareholding across companies still crave for more and more pleasure. I just don't understand what kind of pleasure people are after today.
- The_Colonel 6y agoYes, pleasure is today more accessible than ever and people sort of get hooked on it. But the original argument was that if you are in harmony with nature you even dislike the idea of strong pleasure (like sex) and that's just clearly wrong.
- esperent 6y agoThat's unfair in the extreme to the intellect of cavemen and women. No doubt they had rich and complex internal lives and were as capable as you or I of enjoying birdsong, beautiful sunsets, and so on.
- doukdouk 6y agoGiven that animal grieve and mourn their dead [0], cows have best friends [1], or many species of animals play [2], among many other things, assuming that cavemen lives is only "culinary" and "carnal" pleasure means humans not long ago ("cavemen") had internal lives far, far simpler than what many animal species experience. [0] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/do-animals-experience-grief-180970124/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/do-animals-exp... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-best-friends https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-b... [2] https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/games_animals_play https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/games_animals_...
- m12k 6y agoI don't think it's being in nature that causes you to get into the non-pleasure-seeking mindset. Rather, if you develop a non-pleasure-seeking mindset, then nature will be where you feel most at ease.