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I did. And wrote about it[0]. And I'm not a techno-optimist but you won't find much to truly learn in the manifesto if you are one. The manifesto is far more a
by PuffinBlue 6y ago
I did. And wrote about it[0]. And I'm not a techno-optimist but you won't find much to truly learn in the manifesto if you are one.
The manifesto is far more about 'control' than it is about technology. He spreads the blame to the Left, the Over-Socialized, the 'Elite' and technology - with thinly veiled stopover at the 'stupid' too.
And by 'control' he doesn't simply mean control through technology, it's about Kaczynski's feelings of a lack of control over his own life and he latches that onto this 'industrial society' concept.
But in the manifesto, if read carefully, it shows he really wants to be free from control of the 'elite' and to return to having power (literally the power process) over the entire abstract concept of life - by which I mean to be completely outwith the control of external actors.
That's not to say he was 'wrong', in the post I argue in some ways he was right about control and 'industrial societies' effects on the individual, just misplaced in it's singular application to technology/industrial society (control will emerge from any system) and uttely abhorrent, unforgivable and unfollowable in his actions in pursuit of 'bringing down the system'.
Some of my concluding thoughts for those who don't read long posts:
"The manifesto has left me convinced of his anger against a system that abused him, even a sense of pity and understanding that he took the actions he did. But I can in no way even begin to accept what he did was right or even remotely the correct way to achieve his aims.
If anything, he damaged his cause immeasurably.
I find much of the way he conducted himself in the face of a society he didn't like to be repellent and lazy, running away to bomb and kill those ignorantly innocent of any part in the 'great industrial-technological society' he hates so much.
It's just such an unintelligent response to the objective goals he set. Which has to lend credence to my suspicion that a lot of the content in this manifest was really about his personal issues and not an intellectuals response to an industrial-technological society.
There is nothing to be lauded in this manifesto. There are points that deserve exploration and debate, perhaps even non-violent action - even the criminal can be correct after all - but nothing more.
To me it is the malformed logic of an angry and mistreated man, an intelligent one, but not one who should be forgiven his crimes."
[0] https://www.josharcher.uk/blog/industrial-society-and-its-future-an-analysis/ https://www.josharcher.uk/blog/industrial-society-and-its-fu...
- DyslexicAtheist 6y agoto understand Kaczinsky is impossible without reading Jacques Ellul. His time in the woods doesn't make sense, his anger doesn't make sense, his slow (yes slow) self-radicalization and his terrorism doesn't make sense. Reading the Manifesto alone is what leads to terrible one sided takes like the Netflix documentary with its good-cop-bad-criminal narrative. if all one wants to do is confirm their position why he should be in jail (and he should) than the Manifesto is enough, but to understand the man you got to read what actually radicalized him. Read Ellul!
- dangerface 6y ago> His time in the woods doesn't make sense, his anger doesn't make sense, his slow (yes slow) self-radicalization and his terrorism doesn't make sense. What part of this doesn't make sense? He did hide from society to wallow in his loathing of society until he had radicalised him self all the while blaming society for his actions. Yes that is exactly what I got from reading the manifesto he is an uncomfortable human-being who blames every one else for his uncomfortableness and uses technology as a scape goat. > but to understand the man you got to read what actually radicalized him. Read Ellul! This I agree with there is no reason to read his manifesto as no understanding can be gained from it without first understanding the topic and if you know the topic there is no reason to read it because it doesn't raise any new or interesting ideas in the topic. People can read it if they wan't I did im not going to stop any one, but even if I wanted to recommend some one understand the ideas he was talking about I wouldn't recommend him simply because he just doesn't know what he's on about.
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