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I really rather like this approach. I have 2 comments which are that some people are so fixed on one view that they really cannot change. Give them the maths, w

I really rather like this approach. I have 2 comments which are that some people are so fixed on one view that they really cannot change. Give them the maths, watch them ignore it. Example: in a drugs discussion I posted some info showing nicotine to be minimally addictive, complete with reference in the form of a link, extract from the link so people didn't even have to click on it, and added my own experience that I did not find nicotine alone addictive you need a 2nd type of chemical called an MAOI which makes nicotine very addictive wgen taken together). That got downvoted because nicotine = bad. All the facts you like but some react by instinct.(Note, I use nicotine/drugs that just as an example). The 2nd point is unconscious bias, which you have yourself. You've even included 'Anmericans' in the name, more or less implicitly discoubnting others - plaese don't! We exist in other parts of the globe. Anyway, I really do like the principle.

tonystubblebine 6y ago
The acronym didn't work as well if I extended it to Earthlings. HAMR > HEMR. Agree not everyone values changing their minds. But since you do, I think you'll enjoy this article about falsification. The idea is to think in terms of "I believe X, but if A, B or C were true then my belief would be false." https://medium.com/better-humans/the-falsification-mindset-how-to-change-your-own-mind-db4a0a9ae7f2?source=friends_link&sk=c86abaa9c1dd140ee079abd9b5418ad9 https://medium.com/better-humans/the-falsification-mindset-h...
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
  I'm already aware of popper and his falsification, but I'll spend a bit more time on the article, thanks. My problem is I can easily and happily change my mind if the evidence is concrete but where it is more a matter of common sense I tend to fail; "This is interesting and fun and may be useful - is it worth investing the time in?" And because it is all these, I seduce myself into spending the time on it whereas I suspect it may not be the best use of my time. Deffo not my strong point, that... Going back to the original issue of evidence swaying (or not) people, I really feel lost looking at how to some people, reality is just a hindrance to what they know to be true.

tonystubblebine 6y ago

The acronym didn't work as well if I extended it to Earthlings. HAMR > HEMR. Agree not everyone values changing their minds. But since you do, I think you'll enjoy this article about falsification. The idea is to think in terms of "I believe X, but if A, B or C were true then my belief would be false." https://medium.com/better-humans/the-falsification-mindset-how-to-change-your-own-mind-db4a0a9ae7f2?source=friends_link&sk=c86abaa9c1dd140ee079abd9b5418ad9 https://medium.com/better-humans/the-falsification-mindset-h...

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
I'm already aware of popper and his falsification, but I'll spend a bit more time on the article, thanks. My problem is I can easily and happily change my mind if the evidence is concrete but where it is more a matter of common sense I tend to fail; "This is interesting and fun and may be useful - is it worth investing the time in?" And because it is all these, I seduce myself into spending the time on it whereas I suspect it may not be the best use of my time. Deffo not my strong point, that... Going back to the original issue of evidence swaying (or not) people, I really feel lost looking at how to some people, reality is just a hindrance to what they know to be true.