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For companies like FB and Google that's actually far below the level of a senior engineer (E5/L5), which is usually at around $350-500k range. $280k sounds abo

For companies like FB and Google that's actually far below the level of a senior engineer (E5/L5), which is usually at around $350-500k range. $280k sounds about right for someone who's about 3-5 years out of undergrad at these companies.

trhway 6y ago
my L5 offer was a half of that (kind of lowball which i naturally didn't take). It looks like i got into what i heard is the "benchwarmers" category as a result of that being the second interview with Google - i.e. they hire those low and put on unimportant, to say the least, projects (and the projects they gave me did look so). Edit in response to the comment below: it was Bay Area, SWE L5, about 3 years ago, was truly surprised myself. Since that have learnt about couple other people in the acquaintance network who got similar.
- cletus 6y ago
  I can't imagine a Google offer for a T5 SWE in the US only having <$200k initial grant anytime in the last 5 years (and probably much longer than that). So this would either have to be a different country or a non-SWE engineering ladder and I would guess that's the case here.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  Out of curiosity, was that before or after any negotiation?
  - trhway 6y ago
    they would not negotiate. Probably because i didn't have competing offers (wasn't actively looking, just responded to their recruiter).
- joshuamorton 6y ago
  To clarify, your L5 offer was some base salary, and then ~150k in stock vesting over four years? Or was it 150k per year? Because the second is reasonable, and the first is low enough to be unheard of.
  - trhway 6y ago
    200K (i.e. the half of the L5 range mentioned in GGP comment) stock over 4 years (with the total - stock, base and bonus - about 220) >low enough to be unheard of as i said, a couple of guys in the vicinity got similar offers too. Both are somewhat like me - mid-age and 25+ years experience. One did even take the offer, and he run away after the first year :)
    - joshuamorton 6y ago
      200K would be in the realm of possibility for someone at the very bottom of the band, I think. I thought you meant ~150K as in half of 280K. That would be really low.

trhway 6y ago

my L5 offer was a half of that (kind of lowball which i naturally didn't take). It looks like i got into what i heard is the "benchwarmers" category as a result of that being the second interview with Google - i.e. they hire those low and put on unimportant, to say the least, projects (and the projects they gave me did look so). Edit in response to the comment below: it was Bay Area, SWE L5, about 3 years ago, was truly surprised myself. Since that have learnt about couple other people in the acquaintance network who got similar.

cletus 6y ago
I can't imagine a Google offer for a T5 SWE in the US only having <$200k initial grant anytime in the last 5 years (and probably much longer than that). So this would either have to be a different country or a non-SWE engineering ladder and I would guess that's the case here.
Rebelgecko 6y ago
Out of curiosity, was that before or after any negotiation?
- trhway 6y ago
  they would not negotiate. Probably because i didn't have competing offers (wasn't actively looking, just responded to their recruiter).
joshuamorton 6y ago
To clarify, your L5 offer was some base salary, and then ~150k in stock vesting over four years? Or was it 150k per year? Because the second is reasonable, and the first is low enough to be unheard of.
- trhway 6y ago
  200K (i.e. the half of the L5 range mentioned in GGP comment) stock over 4 years (with the total - stock, base and bonus - about 220) >low enough to be unheard of as i said, a couple of guys in the vicinity got similar offers too. Both are somewhat like me - mid-age and 25+ years experience. One did even take the offer, and he run away after the first year :)
  - joshuamorton 6y ago
    200K would be in the realm of possibility for someone at the very bottom of the band, I think. I thought you meant ~150K as in half of 280K. That would be really low.