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This is the first I've heard of the incident but it sounds terrible. Even the original post on this matter, which sounds sympathetic to the motorist, says he "

This is the first I've heard of the incident but it sounds terrible. Even the original post on this matter, which sounds sympathetic to the motorist, says he "sped through the crowd, running over several individuals" - as I understand it, well before any shots were fired. How is that not really bad? Depending on intent that could be way worse than shooting him.

mythrwy 6y ago
He didn't "speed through the crowd" and he didn't hit anyone. Even after being shot he brakes to avoid hitting someone. The video is right there in grandparents link. I'm curious to know why you and OP would suggest things that very obviously didn't happen in the video? Is it sympathy to the cause of the protesters? What is it?
- dmurray 6y ago
  The poster who said "sped through the crowd" seems to be sympathetic to the motorist. The poster who posted the video that you seem to think exonerates him (the flagged and downvoted post) is strongly unsympathetic to the motorist and may sympathise with the protestors. I don't have much sympathy for either...my opinion is still that this was violent behaviour from both the motorist and the protestors. Violence that would normally be bad, but is possibly excusable if, for example, you were in fear of your life. It's not really clear from the video who initiates the violence.
  - mythrwy 6y ago
    The flagged post that was attempting to justify violent and illegal behavior of shooting a motorist? Where do I suggest "exonerates"? I plainly state he was trying to intimidate the people illegally blocking the road. Which he was. By revving his engine and edging forward. That isn't even a shadow of an excuse for shooting and I'm actually horrified both you and OP would suggest that. My only question is why you would do so.
zo1 6y ago
Everyone needs to see this zoomed in video of the event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNbSnA036s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNbSnA036s My interpretation is that he started being more aggressive / pushy once the gun was pointed in his direction (on the left at the start of the video). So even though the shots were "after", the gun being pointed was the first escalation. I too thought this incident was a borderline people being pushy with eachother type of deal where it unfortunately escalates, but this was clearly someone with a mask on walking up to the car with a gun pointed at it with the intent of intimidation/murder. Seeing that, I fully understand the motorist speeding away, and I probably would have done so even less-patiently.

mythrwy 6y ago

He didn't "speed through the crowd" and he didn't hit anyone. Even after being shot he brakes to avoid hitting someone. The video is right there in grandparents link. I'm curious to know why you and OP would suggest things that very obviously didn't happen in the video? Is it sympathy to the cause of the protesters? What is it?

dmurray 6y ago
The poster who said "sped through the crowd" seems to be sympathetic to the motorist. The poster who posted the video that you seem to think exonerates him (the flagged and downvoted post) is strongly unsympathetic to the motorist and may sympathise with the protestors. I don't have much sympathy for either...my opinion is still that this was violent behaviour from both the motorist and the protestors. Violence that would normally be bad, but is possibly excusable if, for example, you were in fear of your life. It's not really clear from the video who initiates the violence.
- mythrwy 6y ago
  The flagged post that was attempting to justify violent and illegal behavior of shooting a motorist? Where do I suggest "exonerates"? I plainly state he was trying to intimidate the people illegally blocking the road. Which he was. By revving his engine and edging forward. That isn't even a shadow of an excuse for shooting and I'm actually horrified both you and OP would suggest that. My only question is why you would do so.

zo1 6y ago

Everyone needs to see this zoomed in video of the event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNbSnA036s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HNbSnA036s My interpretation is that he started being more aggressive / pushy once the gun was pointed in his direction (on the left at the start of the video). So even though the shots were "after", the gun being pointed was the first escalation. I too thought this incident was a borderline people being pushy with eachother type of deal where it unfortunately escalates, but this was clearly someone with a mask on walking up to the car with a gun pointed at it with the intent of intimidation/murder. Seeing that, I fully understand the motorist speeding away, and I probably would have done so even less-patiently.