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Taaalk [Update: site now back up]
- jtchang 6y agoI would post your nginx.conf
- FailMore 6y agoWhere do I find that? Sorry - I'm a real server noob.
- FailMore 6y agoHey, thanks for writing to me. I'm using Hetzner Cloud. They have a 'Rescale' option which I used. To activate it I had to turn off my server. I did that. Then rescaled and it went on again. When I log into my server or run 'git push dokku master' everything seems the same/is up to date. But getting a 404 for the entire app. Server logs seem to be ok (found with dokku logs taaalk -t). So I'm just very confused and very sad. The server still has the same IP address. It is also saying: server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 8 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 18 minutes ago server.change_type taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 37 minutes ago server.stop taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 39 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 2 months ago This server.request_console is new...
- KittyMagician 6y agoHey FailMore. I've dropped you an email to provide some tips that may help.
- FailMore 6y agoThank you, I think I just got it. Useful for the future/my education!
- KittyMagician 6y agoNo Problem. Good luck!
- FailMore 6y agoroot@taaalk:~# nginx:access-logs taaalk -t -bash: nginx:access-logs: command not found root@taaalk:~# nginx:error-logs taaalk -t -bash: nginx:error-logs: command not found root@taaalk:~# nginx:report taaalk -bash: nginx:report: command not found
- JadeNB 6y agoFailMore in another thread: > Taaalk (https://taaalk.co/ https://taaalk.co/) is less focused around debate, and more around exploring topics: (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23742773 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23742773). From the site: > The home of public conversations > What's this Taaalk website about? > It's a place where people have conversations > And other people get to read them
- wffurr 6y agoA better link that explains what this actually is: https://taaalk.co/t/what-i-m-building-at-taaalk-monologue https://taaalk.co/t/what-i-m-building-at-taaalk-monologue
- greatNespresso 6y agoQuite nice, would be cool to be able to search. But really cool concept
- FailMore 6y agoIs the site very slow for everyone? Normally it's very fast for me but suddenly it's slow.
- volkk 6y agoyep. very slow for me
- FailMore 6y agoI tried to scale up my servers and I think I crashed everything... :( My provider made it seem easier than it was. If anyone knows about scaling up servers, please lmk.
- NicoJuicy 6y agoHow is it going? Which hosting provider?
- FailMore 6y agoHey, thanks for writing to me. I'm using Hetzner Cloud. They have a 'Rescale' option which I used. To activate it I had to turn off my server. I did that. Then rescaled and it went on again. When I log into my server or run 'git push dokku master' everything seems the same/is up to date. But getting a 404 for the entire app. Server logs seem to be ok (found with dokku logs taaalk -t). So I'm just very confused and very sad. The server still has the same IP address. It is also saying: server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 8 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 18 minutes ago server.change_type taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 37 minutes ago server.stop taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 39 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 2 months ago This server.request_console is new...
- AndrewKemendo 6y agoLooks cool. Suggestion: Require people to request discussions from others to sign up/comment/participate. You could gain big traction by getting big names to do conversations and likely monetize by having sponsored conversations. Major thing to avoid would be what happened to Quora where all the comments were gamed by people trying to resume pad. "Thank you for your question, the history of privacy goes back millennia to Cleopatra's Royal guards... In summary, duckduckgo is a search engine focused on privacy"
- joepour 6y agoI love this idea. Allow people to generate a share link or add an email address and Taaalk can email and email inviting them to join the discussion.
- sagark1992 6y agoNice concept. I really liked your About in footer where you have thoughtfully explained your vision of the product. I also made a similar side project during quarantine: https://messagink.com/ https://messagink.com/ I thought there should be a place to archive, discover create interesting conversations or create fictional conversations (text stories) since most app around this space don't let you and are too expensive.
- FailMore 6y agoHey, I came across yours. It's got a lot of features. How is traction going?
- sagark1992 6y agoThanks. I like the idea that you converse and archive conversations there itself. Its great for real life conversations and maybe meaningful conversations. About the traction, getting users has been hard. I made some mistakes in the beginning, I targeted the wrong audience. I got wrong feedback from family, friends, co-workers etc. Then I started cold messaging readers and writers on other writing platforms. From the feedback I gathered 60% of the users asked for an app. They would like to read on mobile. The website is mobile friendly but still they want an app. For writers mostly the feedback was that they don't want to create stories on website which is not popular. There are plenty of other places where they would write where they can get more visibility. Its kind of chicken and egg problem. Still I cold messaged a lot of users through social media and got some users and stories. This is my first side project so I am learning and having fun. :)
- FailMore 6y agoWant to have a Taaalk about running a side project? I have a few other side project people interested in a Taaalk like that.
- sagark1992 6y agoSure. I would love to.
- ALittleLight 6y agoI picked a conversation at random https://taaalk.co/t/bitcoin-maxima-other-crypto-things https://taaalk.co/t/bitcoin-maxima-other-crypto-things This started off with a question about a background image, and the answer had a lot of detail opening up many threads of possible conversations. This seems like something that happens pretty regularly, but also something that the format of linear text isn't well suited for. This is a problem for both essays and conversations. There's a moment with a dozen possible interesting branches and the author or authors choose one direction to pursue. The other directions may be addressed later or may be forgotten and not picked up again. I'm trying to imagine some branching structure, and how it might look in a UI that would "open" multiple threads and let readers and writers move through the text in their own direction. Does that sound meaningful or possible to anyone else?
- djsavvy 6y agoSounds like Reddit or HN comment sections. Both form trees of comments, some of which end up becoming long chains.
- ALittleLight 6y agoThe problem with comment chains is that they aren't focused on a specific point. Like essays or conversations they just cover many points in the order the authors want them to. There is also not a way to pursue a single idea down a comment chain. The idea is merged in with everything else the comment is about and not really followed consistently. Suppose I write an interesting essay about five central ideas. What I'm looking for a way to separate those ideas and allow the user to follow any one of them to some conclusion without having to read the explanations for all five. Or, alternatively, if an idea gets lost or we simply don't want to discuss it, we could flag this idea as something that needs further work by other community members, who could come along and improve it.
- anateus 6y agoThis immediately made me think of the C2 Wiki. It has a style similar to Taaalk in the sense that entries are often a mix of conversation and "exposition". It allows for that sort of linking by being a ("the") wiki. Perhaps that's a good model? A wiki where authors are visually marked as on Taaalk but otherwise all the accouterments of a wiki. The not-quite-vaporware C2 followup implements some aspect of what you're describing via a sort of columnar layout.
- satvikpendem 6y agoAh, the ol' HN hug of death. For future reference (and I haven't been able to access the site yet, so this may or may not be relevant to Taaalk), if the site has a landing page, make it with static files, and put it behind a CDN or just use a free service like Netlify. Put the actual app behind a subdomain which you can then host however you want. This way, people who visit can still check out what the service does and check it out later when not as many people are present on the server. This is a concept known as graceful degradation, trying to make a service as accessible as possible during most if not all conceivable situations.
- FailMore 6y agoHey, I tried to scale up my server mid hn ride and now I'm just getting a 404. I'm not experienced with doing this, and I can log into the server and everything seems to be working/up to date. So I don't understand why it's not working. I'm using a Hetzner, and I'm bummed :(
- SteveNuts 6y agoMake sure you remounted /var/www after your server rebooted.
- FailMore 6y agoHey, I'm a server n00b. Do you know where I would do that? Or what that means in more layman's terms?
- FailMore 6y agoHey, thanks for writing to me. I'm using Hetzner Cloud. They have a 'Rescale' option which I used. To activate it I had to turn off my server. I did that. Then rescaled and it went on again. When I log into my server or run 'git push dokku master' everything seems the same/is up to date. But getting a 404 for the entire app. Server logs seem to be ok (found with dokku logs taaalk -t). So I'm just very confused and very sad. The server still has the same IP address. It is also saying: server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 8 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 18 minutes ago server.change_type taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 37 minutes ago server.stop taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 39 minutes ago server.request_console taaalk taaalk Joshua Summers 2 months ago This server.request_console is new...
- FailMore 6y agoTHE SITE IS BACK UP! (I can't edit the title.) Credit to the extremely kind Antoine Grondin @ Github for helping sort it out! You can find him here: https://twitter.com/antoinegrondin?lang=en https://twitter.com/antoinegrondin?lang=en to say thank you Also thank you to everyone who reached out to try to help me with my server issues :) P.S. If a mod sees this and could edit the title that would be great.
- Alex3917 6y agoOut of curiosity, did you rebuild this from the ground up since the original version? I remember it looking very different before. I'm assuming that 5 years ago you were just custom formatting each conversation to make it look like a magazine article, and since then you got into web application development and automated that process.
- FailMore 6y agoYep, there are some links to it on some of the earlier Taaalks. The first version was a completely static site, which we had to manually update after every message. I built this after learning to code at the end of last year