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I see you have taken my advice about how you might argue differently! [1] Granted, it's odd to see you double down on anecdotes in the wake of a comment that ga
by throwanem 6y ago
I see you have taken my advice about how you might argue differently! [1] Granted, it's odd to see you double down on anecdotes in the wake of a comment that gave you the citations you were asking for earlier. But it's not up to me to tell you how, or how effectively, you should support your thesis, whatever that actually is.
If you are young and single, it’s dumb to buy a home.
Yes, I'd agree. So why'd you bring up homeownership as though it mattered? I mean, you did that, and I took it on faith that you had some kind of point to make with that, and I examined it on that basis. Now you're saying you had no point in bringing it up in the first place. So, why did you?
I’m blaming parents.
Are you, though? You haven't explicitly assigned blame to anyone until now, and it's interesting to me that you've waited so long. It's also interesting that you didn't do that in all the time you spent talking about people's Reddit posts about how they feel like they've been screwed and they don't know what to do about it. You seemed very happy then with whatever assumption people made, and you didn't see a need to get specific until somebody gave you real pushback. Why is that?
What do you propose the government do differently?
Solve the problem? Do the job its members, official and otherwise, are collectively paid, forcibly and with remarkable exorbitance, to do? I mean, you're asking a software engineer a question that's far outside his competence, and unlike some, I have the good sense to know it's a question I'm not able to answer in detail. One wonders why you'd ask such a person such a question at all.
But I also know there are people whose profession it is to be able to answer that kind of question. Quite a lot of them, actually, between government service proper, the similarly vast NGO industry, and various policy posts in industries other than that one. If you want a detailed answer for how a problem like this gets solved, ask some of those experts, and I'm sure they'll be able to provide. But I don't have to be one of those experts to recognize that a problem exists and badly needs solving.
Anyway, isn't all of this, that a government exists to identify and solve this sort of problem in order to maintain a stable, livable society for everyone, more or less the basic deal implicit in a phrase like "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"? I don't know, that's just something I remember hearing once somewhere. It's probably not very important.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23738859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23738859
- scarface74 6y agoI put the blame and responsibility on parents to comments up. Unless you are emancipated, you can’t sign up for FAFSA unless your legal guardian sign with you. Yes I was dumb, that’s what adults are for. I’ve been talking about home ownership and renting since the very beginning. I’ve also spoken about the other alternative - staying with your parents as part of a multigenerational home until you can afford to move out like much of the rest of the world.
- scarface74 6y agoI mean, you're asking a software engineer a question that's far outside his competence, and unlike some, I have the good sense to know it's a question I'm not able to answer in detail. One wonders why you'd ask such a person such a question at all. I’m a software engineer. But, I’m also a parent. It’s my responsibility to be informed and give my children advice. Were my parents better informed than average - especially my mom who was teacher at the time and helped plenty of low income and minority students work their way through the school system - yes. No, this isn’t a “white savior complex”. My mom is Black. Were her parents who didn’t have even a high school education and grew up in the segregated south “privileged”. Heck no, out of their five kids, two went to college and became teachers, one became a nurse, and one has owned his own car repair shop for over 30 years. Myself, I went to a local state college that no one had ever heard of and within three years I was making the same amount as people who graduated from college with tens of thousands in debt. It’s not the government’s job to help young people make good decisions - it’s the parents.