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Well, John Bolton in his new book alleges that Trump told Xi to keep locking up Uyghurs. > “According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead wi

by hkai 6y ago

Well, John Bolton in his new book alleges that Trump told Xi to keep locking up Uyghurs. > “According to our interpreter, Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do,” Mr. Bolton wrote. On the other hand, he also signed the Uyghur Human Rights Act.

chongli 6y ago
I think it’s pretty clear at this point that Trump says a lot of different things and constantly contradicts himself. The running theme is that he tries to say what he thinks is the best thing to say at that time but with all the savvy and nuance of a used car salesman.
danenania 6y ago
Though it's for different reasons, Trump is putting large numbers of people in camps himself, and we've seen plenty of evidence of systematic abuse, neglect, and dehumanization. It isn't surprising that he would be sympathetic to another leader who uses similar tactics (even if his advisors make him condemn it to keep up appearances). There's little reason to think he'd do anything different in Xi's position. Edit: For the downvoters, I am not 'whatabout-ing' or trying to diminish these terrible crimes committed by China's government. But I think it's naive to expect any credible US-led action against it while the leader of the US is committing similar crimes on a lesser (but still massive) scale.
- refurb 6y ago
  Trump was putting people in camps? You mean the throngs of asylum seekers? Slightly different scenario, no?
  - danenania 6y ago
    Different scenario, similar disregard for basic human rights.
    - refurb 6y ago
      Please stop defending China.
      - danenania 6y ago
        Please show where I did so? And since you can't: please stop making transparently false accusations on HN.
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skocznymroczny 6y ago
"alleges" "according to anonymous sources". Hardly any criticism towards Trump comes from reliable, confirmed sources. It's just throwing random conjectures, hoping something sticks.

by hkai 6y ago

chongli 6y ago

I think it’s pretty clear at this point that Trump says a lot of different things and constantly contradicts himself. The running theme is that he tries to say what he thinks is the best thing to say at that time but with all the savvy and nuance of a used car salesman.

danenania 6y ago

Though it's for different reasons, Trump is putting large numbers of people in camps himself, and we've seen plenty of evidence of systematic abuse, neglect, and dehumanization. It isn't surprising that he would be sympathetic to another leader who uses similar tactics (even if his advisors make him condemn it to keep up appearances). There's little reason to think he'd do anything different in Xi's position. Edit: For the downvoters, I am not 'whatabout-ing' or trying to diminish these terrible crimes committed by China's government. But I think it's naive to expect any credible US-led action against it while the leader of the US is committing similar crimes on a lesser (but still massive) scale.

refurb 6y ago
Trump was putting people in camps? You mean the throngs of asylum seekers? Slightly different scenario, no?
- danenania 6y ago
  Different scenario, similar disregard for basic human rights.
  - refurb 6y ago
    Please stop defending China.
    - danenania 6y ago
      Please show where I did so? And since you can't: please stop making transparently false accusations on HN.
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skocznymroczny 6y ago

"alleges" "according to anonymous sources". Hardly any criticism towards Trump comes from reliable, confirmed sources. It's just throwing random conjectures, hoping something sticks.