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Well, In Somalia we do read the Quran. In fact, virtually every child memorizes it from cover to cover before starting school. But if you mean understanding wha
by ducaale 6y ago
Well, In Somalia we do read the Quran. In fact, virtually every child memorizes it from cover to cover before starting school. But if you mean understanding what it says, then you have a point.
- jacquesm 6y agoWhat a complete waste of time. If you're going to be forced to cram a book that size it would be great if it contained knowledge rooted in science. Think about it: you could start today and within two decades you'd have a generation of actual scholars. Somalia would leap ahead.
- ducaale 6y agoI don't consider it a waste of time. In fact, I am reading it right now. And yes, I do plan to start coding when I finish my recitation today :)
- jacquesm 6y agoWell, good for you. I always wonder what would happen if the Islamic world would go through the equivalent of the enlightenment, I think it would leapfrog the 'west' in a generation or two if it did.
- ducaale 6y agoWe don't need to abandon our faith to achieve that. In fact, we already had a golden age[1] where we leapfrogged most civilizations. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
- sjwright 6y agoYes, and then you were leap-elephanted by the enlightenment. Keep up.
- ducaale 6y agoYeah, it is really unfortunate. But remember that this world is like a pendulum. You might have it your way today but it will not last. Meanwhile, We will do our best to catchup ;)
- sjwright 6y agoHurry up. Please.
- dang 6y agoPlease stop. Your comments in this thread stand out as particularly bad, and the commenter you've been abusing is to be commended for not reacting in kind.
- ducaale 6y agoThanks for restoring my faith in HN :)
- sjwright 6y agoI apologise as I can see how “you” could be misread as referring to the individual I was replying to, rather than a colloquial rejoinder to the use of “we”—but I would have thought that was self evident given that the Enlightenment was 250 years ago. More broadly I don’t regret anything I have said in this thread. And honestly I find it difficult to take this form of criticism seriously; offering challenge to concepts voluntarily offered into this thread by others isn’t “abuse“ in any other context. And I further reject the assertion that the other commenter did not react “in kind”. He even used “you” at me in the same colloquial sense.
- dang 6y agoYou posted cheap religious slurs. That's insulting in the same way that slurring someone's country would be (a thing we've in fact had to warn you about in the past on HN). We ban accounts that do these things, so please don't do them any more.
- sjwright 6y agoYou’re reading that particular book because you happen to be born into a particular culture in a particular moment in time. It’s not a truth of the universe, it’s an accident of your circumstances. Just like every other sacred text.
- ducaale 6y agoWell, I am glad I was born in those circumstances as a muslim :)
- sjwright 6y agoObviously. That’s how belief works. If you were born at any time in any place, you might well have said the same with respect to any other set of beliefs. You can have your book, just don’t delude yourself into believing it’s special because everyone around you says it is special. And that goes for everyone born everywhere at every time.
- nurettin 6y ago> But if you mean understanding what it says, then you have a point. This is exactly what I meant. Reading without understanding is awarded with sevab points. That is the reason I created a word by word translation so that no meaning is hidden behind clerical authority.